Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I always thought we were giving these people temporary refugee until they could return. Obviously in reality things are different.

And nobody is calling for 100k deportations but if Ukraine comes calling for man power and want people back to help the effort. Anyone they request should be returned out of respect for Ukraine. Given most of the 100k are woman and children you could be talking a small number of say 5k from Ireland and obviously much more from countries like Germany and Poland. But these 1 percenters make a difference when you're up against Russia trying to wipe your nation out.

The way I look at it, if Ukraine doesn't want anyone back fair enough they would obviously feel it's not necessary. But it's looking like they will want people back so why would you deny them?

It's not a conspiracy. The EU openly claims they need to increase the population for economic reasons and are not happy with the current birth rate. It's how capitalism works. Endless population growth needed for endless economic growth. A flawed model imo.

Back on topic, it's not me volunteering them but Ukraine are now suggesting it will call for some people back. You support stealing a countries population from a country fighting for it's survival? You do realise many Ukrainians in Ukraine have been mobilised who want nothing to do with war? It's how things work when you fight for your very existence against a formidable foe.

Europe is "stealing" the population of Ukraine?

How? by offering them safe refuge during a war?

I don't think any country is restricting the movement of refugees back to their home country if they want to go.

Can you at least be transparent with the intent behind your posts. You don't agree with immigration policy. You would prefer if there were fewer immigrants. You're trying to cover this up with some nonsense argument that by accepting refugees we're "stealing a countries population" and letting the "Russian Nazi's win".

Poor effort.

You could go yourself volunteering like be no need to deport you or anything I bey we could even have a whip round to get you ticket's .......even a couple of the kids could go give a chance for everyone else to get a house.......

Right jasus that's a very stirring speech......I'll go along with you myself we better get good armour plates and stuff ........ or maybe we'll just stay nice and cozy at home with too much to eat and drink and spit vile comments on an anonymous forum 😒😒😒 plonker

@RoyalCelt always thought we were giving these people temporary refugee until they could return. Obviously in reality things are different.

And nobody is calling for 100k deportations but if Ukraine comes calling for man power and want people back to help the effort. Anyone they request should be returned out of respect for Ukraine.

I believe that around 40% of the Ukrainians living here are male so it not just a few men it's tens of thousands of males 18+ here,

Again there is international agreements or laws that would allow anyone to be forcibly returned to warzone,they can ask but they have zero authority or ability to force anyone to return to Ukraine to then be forced to fight in a war that they clearly have no interest in .this time last year we were hearing about a million man army from some , where's the hundreds of thousands called up already,

Zelensky will find himself in serious trouble if he starts to think he can demand hundreds of thousands of men and boys be deported from EU States who have already given them international protection

Great if true

Didn't they previously sneak a Patriot battery near the front? Possibly they've done it again.

I'm not sure if they sneaked it close to the border or was just placed within range, but seeing as how there hasn't been any more shootdowns like that in the area that Patriot system has probably been moved.

But Germany was due to deliver an additional patriot system this month and the south badly needs more AA. Maybe they found a nice home for it! Would be a nice way to christen the new system!

And I reject that completely. I repeat it is a primary duty of a citizen to both support their country and to defend it if required. That has always been the case, it's one of the things that defines citizenship/ membership of a group. There's no point in being a citizen of a state unless you are prepared to defend it. It is a fundamental moral duty.

And that applies to those Ukrainians here who can be of service to their state and who are required there. How can they possibly hold their heads up, if they know they are leaving the huge responsibility of defending their state to friends, family and neighbours back in Ukraine??

There is absolutely no problem with us sheltering genuine Ukrainian war refugees from war torn areas, subject to limits we can manage - the elderly, women with children and children. No problem at all, assuming this is on a temporary basis until the crisis has passed. That is common decency.

It is a very different matter to have Ukrainian citizens who are of an age and can be of service to their country to be asked to return.

I think you're mixed up - we're discussing war refugees here, not 'immigrants' as in international asylum seekers etc. or those who come in with work permits etc.

Do you agree that it is the duty of able bodied Ukrainian citizens that are eligible and wanted for service, to return and serve their country?? And if not, why not?