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Cork - BusConnects

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,955 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I dont think "curb your enthusiasm" was suggesting that the macroom bypass had anything to do with bus connects -

    But more a constant "we'll just do this next road project and then get serious about public transport " type attitude,

    And we all want that little improvement on the little bit of road we use - plus ,obviously ,when we become mainly car users we're not public transport users and are unlikely to "go back" to using public transport.. ( unless its far cheaper,quicker+ more reliable than private cars )

    So from a politicans view , a public transport project that inconvieniences locals car drivers,to provide service to possibly non vocal non voters is always a worse bet than " we'll upgrade this junction "

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭cantalach


    I’m mentally disengaging from the BusConnects project now. Reading residents’ submissions and councillors’ statements doesn’t do me any good. The complete watering down of the project, to the point that it is now a whole lot of nothing, is a terrible indictment of where we are as a society and of our leaders’ ability to effect meaningful change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    Cork gets what Cork deserves it's a kip bereft of innovation or progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BagofWeed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,955 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Harsh ,- probably true but still harsh -

    Anything that councils and councillors / representatives can lean on is always going to get watered down to nothing - no matter how much its in public interest -

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,613 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Cork GAA come out against Busconnects lol, and I thought things were bad in Dublin, they're doing their best to stop Busconnects down yonder



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    Help Us Save Beaumont Quarry - Cork Nature Network

    These people are actually sick altogether. This city will never progress. We should have a protest outside these peoples houses.


    STC J - Mahon to City | National Transport Authority Consultation Portal



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    I will say, it is actually a lovely little park. Probably one of the most unique I've ever seen in Ireland. It is full of wildflowers, butterflies, native trees and unique scenery.

    It isn't just your usual crappy field or city park of just some grass, etc. which I wouldn't be bothered with.

    Having said that, the impact to the park seems to be very light, just a dozen trees on the edge of the park, mostly relatively young trees, not the thicker ones behind them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭cantalach


    Those submissions about the quarry are unreal, talking about “wrecking” the amenity, etc. The impact to the quarry is absolutely minimal. The plan proposes to CPO a tiny strip of land - looks about 2.5 metres wide - along the western perimeter of the quarry. They would fell about 12 trees but plant 15, if I’m counting correctly. This will make space for a segregated 2-way cycle track on that side of the road, and a bus lane on the other side of the road. The stuff about doing it to create parking spaces is disingenuous because the parking spaces seem to be accommodated entirely within the tightened apex of the turn from Churchyard Lane to Boreenmanna Road. The reality is that the parking spaces are a necessary bone being thrown to the GAA and IRFU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭at1withmyself


    There is an archway proposed to go through an old wall in Ballincollig, sadly mis information means people think it's being knocked but the proposal is to build in an archway for pedestrians.

    What's even funnier is the 2 huge archways for cars only 3m around the corner and an existing pedestrian archway, which I think adds character.

    I think people should be allowed voice opposition but it should be truthful and not spreading lies as no wonder nothing gets done.

    See here where the petition to save it, makes it sound like it's being removed!




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭crayon80


    God forbid they let the truth get in the way of a good nimbyism.

    There's a report a policy button. Will we give it a go? 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Rulmeq




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Plus the few trees being felled are mostly dying ash and non native (I think) horse chestnut and sycamore. Not a huge loss



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    Anyone here remember the Bin Laden mural that was roughly where the Aldi is now ? I'm talking 20 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭crayon80


    If anyone hasn't a submission in already please do - the deadline is tomorrow night. The submissions so far make for depressing reading in the main.


    So many going on about that wall, it's hilarious. If the NTA just disregarded the crazy bleating of the Nimbys it'd be something. I mean there was far more destruction of the barracks walls etc before this when they built Tesco and the rest out there. But I'm sure all these people boycott tesco too, its not just bus & cycle lanes they protest against 🙄 . Plus you'd think the quarry is the greatest opportunity ever for biodiversity.


    What is wrong with people?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Schorpio


    The issue with this (and virtually all public consultations) is that people are FAR more likely to submit something they are opposed too. There is something in human nature that means we are much less likely to go to the effort of writing a submission if we are in favour or indifferent. However, that isn't accounted for in the process.

    Then there is the other issue that opposition groups are also much more likely to go door-knocking and scaremongering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


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    Good ol' drugs get a mention here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,612 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    There's nimbys everywhere but Ballincollig seems to have a particularly active bunch. Very strange what's going on out there what with greenways being blocked and the "save our right hand turns" rubbish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Consultation on Anglesea Street Contraflow Bus Lane, was this part of the BusConnects proposals?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Yes it is. It’s needed so that buses can be routed away from South Mall.

    https://busconnects.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Cork-New-Network-Central.pdf



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Thanks. That would suggest that they are looking to implement small changes on a standalone basis rather than the all encompassing corridor approach used in Dublin. I think it makes sense to pick the low hanging fruit now rather than dragging everything into a battle.

    The link doesn't work for me btw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Well this is in preparation for the new network - again this is independent to the corridors.

    The link is on the Cork BusConnects network page and it does work!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    They recently got permission for new bus stops related to Bus Connects, in the city centre, Wilton and Glanmire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,700 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    Impressively bad cycle infrastructure design on that Anglesea Street proposal in fairness. The "death corner" onto South Terrace directly across from the "death by taxi" section on Infirmary Road was a really nice touch.

    On a serious note, I fully expect them to come up with nonsensical reasons why the design definitely shouldn't adhere to the standards. What a waste of everyone's time. Why can't they just do it right FFS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    I don't understand the purpose of the contra-flow bus lane up as far as Old Station Road. The bus has nowhere to go except turn left down Copley street and end up back outside the gym at the end of South Terrace where the buses go now.

    Unless I'm missing something…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Northbound buses from Infirmary Road will go via Angelsea Street, right onto Old Station Road, left onto Eglinton Street, left onto Terence McSwiney Quay and then right over Parnell Bridge and north along Parnell Place.

    The map shows this:

    https://busconnects.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Cork-New-Network-Central.pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Traffic counter things on the road surface of Douglas Road, by Well Road. I wonder if it’s connected to this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,700 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    A bump in the BusConnects thread because I only recently spotted that a really large number of routes seem to cross through CUH. It's basically becoming a large transport hub. I'm not against this but had two thoughts:

    1. It would be good if terminus type infrastructure was built there to suit: maybe P&R, facilities, dashboards, staff etc?
    2. It would be good to try and repeat that "Terminus infrastructure" effort in one or two other locations. Obviously Kent station, and possibly Blackpool S/C (2 rail and 5 bus routes) Douglas S/C (Seems to have 9 bus routes) Black Ash (5 bus routes) Mahon Point (5 bus routes) maybe Midleton (rail, 6 bus routes).

    All you'd need here is a comfortable waiting area to swap buses, maybe toilet facilities etc and a bit of signage. Ideally you could also introduce P&R parking space, they all already have shopping and other commercial services. Seems like an obvious "next step".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,955 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Dunkettle is the biggest transport intersection in the county , probably a bit outside bus connects remit though , ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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