Moon landing hoax

But we can fly above low earth orbit.

You've been provided with mountains of evidence. You ignore it.

You provide no evidence or arguments to defend your notion that there's a decades long conspiracy involving millions of people and trillions of dollars to fake space flight for a reason you can't even state.

A five minute rant on twitter from a flat earther isn't going to convince anyone or even provide them something worth considering.

You've not provided any reason why any of the footage and evidence presented to you should be doubted or any argument or evidence to show that they are fake.

Likewise you cannot explain how or why such evidence would be faked other than all of the people in these space agencies must be involved in some nonsensical conspiracy. This isn't an answer to anything. It's just a very good reason why what you're proposing is impossible and why normal people don't accept your conspiracy theory. Your counter to this likewise isn't very convincing.

You have not provided a jot of evidence that any space flight is fake.

All you have is "I don't understand something, I'm not willing to expend any effort in trying to understand it, therefore I've stumbled across a decades long conspiracy."

I'm not willing to accept that as "evidence". Nor is it likely to make me question my beliefs for obvious reasons.

Additionally I'm not particularly interested in listening to 5 min Twitter videos from a flat earther. Because they believe the earth is flat.

Also your questions keep being answered. Please don't pretend otherwise.

Not even going to waste the 5min to watch that, as I assume it'll be nonsense.

NASA has never used CG for Space, not once.

Literally millions of people watched the Saturn V launches - and I don't mean on TV I mean with their own two eyes. Are they all in on it too?

Why build a Moon rocket and then not use it?

There is no reason a manned spacecraft that can reach low Earth orbit cannot leave Earth orbit, it's just a question of more fuel.

You don't understand concepts about spaceflight an eight year old can grasp, and therefore assume something you don't understand cannot be true. You cannot admit there are people far smarter than you (or I). It's an ego thing with these conspirators.

The only answer is that there's a giant conspiracy to convince everyone that the Earth is flat.

But believers don't want to state this because they know it makes them sound ridiculous and it shatters the "just asking questions" illusion.

The video starts off with Elon Musk correctly stating that in 1969 we took people to the moon, which contradicts the conspiracy in this thread.

The video then cuts to Neil Degrasse Tyson confirming we went to the moon, which again contradicts the conspiracy. He states that many people have been in low earth orbit (to space stations), which is true, however only the astronauts have left it go to a planetary destination (the moon), which is true

A clip talks about NASA administration allegedly losing tech. Okay, half a mil is a relatively small amount out of a program that costs 10s of billions, stuff like this is common in large government agencies/corporations. A strange little cheapshot there.

Next clip is a guy saying he'd go to the moon in a nanosecond, but that we don't have the technology to do that anymore. He's correct. We shut down the moon landing program, and we'd have to fire it up again to go back (which is currently happening with Artemis). Same with Concorde. We used to have supersonic passenger flight across the Atlantic, we don't anymore, we'd have to fire the program up and redevelop everything.

The rest of it is just cherry-picked and selective quotes deliberately chopped up and taken out of context to make it sound like these people are saying something else. Real bottom of the barrel stuff.

It's a dishonest grifter video, clumsily designed to get people to doubt space travel.

Exactly.

Relationships between the US and the USSR were at an all time low in the 60s.

Do you really think the Russians wouldn't have cried 'fake' if they had the proof the Americans didn't actually go to the moon.

The argument would be "It's CGI". And that would be the end of the argument and the details given.

Theorists only vaguely hand wave at explanations like this. There's no thought about the actual logistics of how such a thing would be accomplished. No thought about the implications of those logistics.

For example, if someone were to argue that those images were just produced by CGI it leads to many more questions.

Who made the CGI image? Where? When? Are they involved in the conspiracy? Do they produce these images every day? How much are they paid for this?

Theorists can't provide any details because their explanation has no explanative power. It's no better than them just saying "It's magic."

The funny thing is that a lot of them declare that they don't believe the official (real) story because it can't explain some issue they think they've found.

Maybe they are on to something.

According to my car sat nav, it is flat!!

Nice video of Apollo 11 launch. 30 seconds of real time recorded at 500 frames per minute second through a quartz window.

Another fake news story, with hundreds of more people involved. Since satellites don't exist, this is all made up.

And on the subject of launching craft, what do the conspiracy nuts think happened to the 7 astronauts who went up in Space Shuttle Challenger?

Have they been spirited away from their families, living off grid? Or were they whacked?

The claim that was made here was that the Challenger astronauts didn't die and weren't killed. They were given new identities, some of which were people with similar names or invented brothers or sisters of the astronauts. And these identities were prominent enough to have their photos available on the early internet. And for some reason Nasa didn't spring for plastic surgery.

The reason for any of this remained unexplained.

It all seemed to be based off one decades old meme where low res images of the astronauts were put next to low res images of the people they were supposedly pretending to be.