Russia - threadbanned users in OP

You haven't addressed the point raised that various inc Biden have pointed out, that NATO inc US forces will be dragged in. Maybe it's inevitable and this slow escalation is all part of the plan.

There maybe no choice if Ukraine can't do it ,then others will have to do it for them.

That might be necessary.

America would have enough resources alone in Europe to finish the Russians.

It isn't going to happen though.

If they wanted Russia beaten they would have given the Ukrainian forces what they needed. They didn't.

Nasty actors like Putin, Hamas, Hezbollah, China, Iran etc are all going to be steadily emboldened by this.

By endless will these dump bombs run out in 2 years like arty ammo did from their Russian stockpiles or are we talking 10 years here? This has been a major advantage to Russia and it will only decrease after western fighter jets, more patriots and longer range missiles arrive with permission to hit Russian bases in Russia itself.

In hindsight I think Ukraine was smart to hold back a lot of the western equipment they receive when their summer strategy clearly wasn't working. I can't help but feel they'll have better results next summer but only with western jet's. Otherwise they might aswell just stay in defense.

The comedy sketch Vlad “we didn’t like ye anyway” Putin or Vlad “I’m happy I wasn’t asked to the wedding” Putin is attempting among many of his superpowers to rewrite basic economics.

Vlad will be offering a special SSIA scheme next to offer Russians a special method of getting a slice of the 15% interest rate he has generated for all the people with surplus cash in an economy with close to 7,5% inflation.

The Russian GDP isnt sustainable real growth it is just eating itself in defence spending and smoke and mirrors. Potemkin economics.

Let's be honest. Labelling posters 'Putinbots' is pathetically childish. But it seems to give lots of posters on here their kicks. The irony in their use of the phrase is gloriously lost on them.

Buying stuff that is sanctioned I guess costs more than it did before the war. I recall seeing they were out of petrol and diesel as the profits made seliing its abroad were greater. If you add in a devaluing rouble then an IPhone or Nike runners become really expensive as does medicine or anything else not made there.

Most of them get threadbanned sooner or later. What I find ironic is how this habit of slandering anyone who wants a more objective discussion as a "foreign/Putin agent" is exactly the kind of thing Russia does to stifle debate, these posters have more in common with a society like that than with an open, democratic society like Ukraine wants to be

Exactly. Russia is currently taking huge sums from their reserves to cover huge increases in military spending. On top of that they are exporting less and paying more for imports. Then there's the small matter of 300k dead men, many more injured and hundreds of thousands more being paid a fortune to die on the frontlines.

Of course with all this spending your economy will appear to be growing but in reality you're killing yourself long term. We're nearly at 2 years of this. Things won't look so pretty after year 4 or 5.

That's a shame. So again it goes back to western fighter jets and more patriots being the only way to stop these coming non stop.

They don't have to be extremely accurate but 1000kg of high explosives hitting a trench or buildings or vehicles will do a serious amount of damage and so far they are proving to be pretty lethal to the Ukrainian positions,they still have medium and heavy bombers capable of dropping a lot more these 4 of these Bombs at a time,