Russia - threadbanned users in OP

The west is slowly getting rolling. Germany has announced that it will double it's output for this year for example. Most European countries understand that this is not just about Ukraine. Poland have absolutely zero interest in having a Russia controlled Ukraine on their East.

And the Baltics simply cannot afford the current Russian empires full attention in its current state. That isn't going to change.

The only ..... stress the only hope that Russia get to maintain the territory that they've stolen is that America becomes bored and isolated or votes in another Trump. But even that isn't a guaranteed loss. Nobody really knows what he'd do. There's lots of der jerbs and contracts tied to this war across the southern Americans states now.

Keeping in mind that America stayed in Afghanistan for years without popular support and despite a plethora of negative press. Politics centered around military affairs do , to a large degree, operate independently of the public support and clickbait negative news headlines.

I still believe strongly this vote will be called to supply Ukraine for 2024. But it's probably gonna be an ugly few weeks politically in Congress. As Johnson tries to walk the line of getting Israel aid separately and Ukraine lumped in with border security without getting the McCarthy treatment from the radical Republicans. How much money will be voted on and how soon is the question. Any significant delays could cost Ukraine territory and lives.

How the war goes next year is pure guesswork and anyone who tells you otherwise is talking shite. Who would've guessed that Ukraine would even last the first few weeks against the Russian behemoth? Who'd have guessed that Ukraine would blitz back large chunks of its territory in Luhansk. Or that the black sea fleet would be cowering from a few suicide drone boats and storm shadows? Or that Prigozhin would enact a full blown mutiny on Moscow? How about Russias primary rail artery to China and N. Korea crippled for the near future?

How long can Russia reliably throw 1k men per day to their deaths for a tiny suburb of Donetsk for example? Don't you think Putin would call for another mobilization in a heartbeat if he could? Why hasn't he? Perhaps he knows that support for this war back home is more brittle than it appears?

There's so many variables and potential surprises and to date few of the biggest surprises have been in Russia's favor.

It's not certain but I really don't think Ukraine is doomed to be hung out to dry.

No. That wasn't my point at all. Again with the over-simplification of things. I've no intention of wasting my time with reductionist arguments... "Ukraine pure... Russians evil... USA mighty... Russia puny".

You are arguing that Putin could alter politics in Ireland and elsewhere, how is that not painting him as a far bigger figure than he really is?

The only type of settlement that could work involves NATO membership for Ukraine to ensure there are no more lines to encroach, this is likely what we'll get but it will be forced on the russians.

Your whataboutery makes no sense in this context as we have literally every other defined border on the planet as an example of treaties working.

You are also playing into a contrarians/putinbots hands (which is the modus operandi for that poster), but you can ponder that bit alone (I see you have encroached their web already).

Putin has had a relative impact on foreign politics, discourse and elections as part of Russian doctrine (troll factories, meddling, sowing division, etc).

You only have to look at this site to see how many posters in these threads prior to invasion were systematically promoting Kremlin propaganda and talking points. Crimea, Donbas, Syria, "NATO encirclement", "Russia is not a threat" and so on..

Putin has achieved population decline, currency devaluation and the elimination of a competitive advantage with easy gas and oil sales into Europe. Add on significant military decline as well. If the trend continues Russia’s main trading partner by the end of this decade will be China. Russia will have a whole new set of problems if that happens. Not sure what negotiations mean in the context of Putin.

You’d argue with your toenails. What I stated is fact, and directly related to the post I quoted where you either got it wrong, or deliberately exaggerated. It is exactly 1 year, 9 months, and 11 days (12 if including today).

thats different, any conflict will generate 2 sets of opinions, thats not the same as the Russians causing general mayhem in the west across several political topics.

Putin uses a variety of methods to impact international elections, politics and meddle in other countries.

One of those methods is various forms of propaganda. I was highlighting one microcosm of that as an example of the impact of propaganda (Boards.ie). It wasn't hard to notice the uptick here. The fringe left and far right are incredibly easy groups to manipulate, they are also very vocal online.

Russia lost some wind in its sails

I knew they'd get them Military confirms death of Russian troops who killed Ukrainian POWs (kyivindependent.com)

I'm on holiday in Europe for 4 days and I've already seen 2 Russian families turn tail and leave an establishment after being refused service for being absolute c*nts.

Let's face it, every nation needs to deport them and refuse entry because maybe then, they'll get the message that their own country is viewed by any normal functioning country, as a piece of ****.

I know Russians and a few Belarussians and it's genuinely time to force them to look in the mirror.

Subtlety does not work on them. It's time to **** up their hollibops

Then why did you say it was nearly 3 years? 2014 is more than 3years ago, right ?

Would this information be better not shared as it represents a competitive advantage or is the PR part the bigger outcome?