Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

I don't think streaming can be underestimated either in the hit cinemas have taken. A lot of people seem to be extremely comfortable now waiting for something to arrive on Disney+ or on Video on Demand

The "Event" nature of the genre seems to have simply passed. No Way Home was the last one to capture something of the essence of it for me.

I also feel that Millennials are still the key audience for these films and are the most likely to go to repeat viewings, but as they get older and priorities shift, the need to rush out and see these films is gone to a degree.

I dont know Youtubers I dont watch but as of now, the most common youtuber I watch is Mr H Reviews for general Hollywood takes cos he puts out nice and short 10 min videos which is about my level of interest, the question is if you see all criticism of hollywoood as "not analysis" then you may miss out on why general audiences dont like particular content or why a particular project is likely to fail before the trailers are even out.

What elements 'failed' with Agents of SHIELD? MCU didn't lose people, it got stronger and stronger while AoS was on the air.

I saw the Marvels and you need zero knowledge of any of the shows to get that movie, background is provided to everything a person would need. It is just people feel they need to know every bit of background to be able to enjoy the movie, which simply isnt the case.

Their flavour of vanilla is only a hurdle because the majority of fans don't want different. Every movie that has veered even slightly away from the core approach has received blowback from fans and critics.

I also don't think you can look at any of the recent live action successes in film because they aren't comparable to what the MCU are doing. Barbie and Oppenheimer are the first movies and then Maverick and Avatar had huge gaps since the originals. For all of those it is much easier to build up an 'event' experience. We'll see how Avatar holds up when they get to the 5th movie, though even then it will be nowhere near the quantity and complexity of the MCU.

Agents of Shield gave up on the interconnection by the end going movies to TV, and TV to movies never really happened.

The only thing that came from agents of shield was the new helicarrier in age of ultron which didn't have any plot you just had Coulson show it at one point and then age of ultron happens and it shows up.

If you'd never watched AOS you'd not have missed anything for the movies. They may as well have been fan made shows.

If anything though, and as we've seen with some of the Disney shows, being freed of having to connect to the films allowed AoS to do some really funky sh*t. They really took the chance to do some huge stories, have a lot of fun, and develop and evolve their own characters without having to really worry about a new MCU film announced which might not be out for another 3 years.

Would have loved to see Daisy come through to the main MCU given her powers & history. May and Mac were two of my favourite characters, but they'd get lost in the MCU, and I was fully sure they were going to claim Mac was actually Nick Fury's son but they didn't.

Fcuk it. Think I'm gunna start binging it again now I'm thinking of it again haha.

Season 3 is also responsible for one of my favourite lines of dialogue in any Marvel project

"Why do you think this Lash can defeat Hive? And who in tarnation names these things?!"

I'm sure Jed and Marissa would have had other connections to the producers without Joss. They would have had to get approval for use of characters, stories etc from Marvel comics and the film producers like Feige for everything they did. I always saw it more as a case that because the Inhumans show failed, and because AoS had so much time to fill between movies, constantly having to tie back to the movies became more of a burden than anything else. Particularly with how network TV and movies are made at such a different pace. Splitting from the movies just allowed them to run their own stories at their own pace with stuff the movies weren't using (though the Darkhold appeared in AoS long before it showed up again in Wandavision).

*i am moving this comment from the Marvels thread..

I think the X-Men scenario will be huge.. I was 28 when Iron Man came out, and a total comic nerd. I can't wait to see what happens with the MCU in control.

the first x-men movie and days of future past, were brilliant. but i am definitely looking forward to this.

I think the main issue with the MCU X-Men will come to recasting them now instead of going with the 20 year old cast from the first X-Men movies just to placate the fans of the first movies.

They can easily recast the Fantastic 4 as none of those movies were really any good

The cast of the original X-Men were well cast and well received by fans and they did a good job with the material they were given however they are all to old to lead a decade or more MCU Phase now.