Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

There's still scope to tell self-contained stories of various genres and tones within a bigger connected universe. The comics themselves demonstrate this. But they're drunk on cross-selling viewers between all the various movies and shows (also similar to the line-wide events increasingly happening in comic books), using the films as marketing vehicles themselves.

Regarding the multiverse, instead of continually looking at it from the current marvel universe and characters we know from 616(or 199999 or whatever it is), just make films in different universes that are their own story that might have minor references, if any, to the concept of the multiverse.

The audience has had the concept explained enough at this stage so just saying in the promotional material that a certain film isn’t set in the core MCU should be enough.

The current Earth feels overstuffed with heroes as it is, adding mutants and vampires to that makes it less grounded in a real place than it should be.

Blade, X-Men, The Fantastic Four should be their own stories in the own universes that don’t have the baggage of 15 years of continuity, with the characters introduced to our characters for the big Avengers type team up.

Yeah. One of the good things about the first Ant-Man (Apart from Michael Pena) was the fact that it was pretty much its own thing: A comedy heist movie. Minimal interaction with the overarching MCU. Yes, Howard Stark was at the start and Falcon was there but in general, it was its own thing. And it meant you could just WATCH it!

I mean, really, WHY was that girl with her Iron-man suit in Black Panther 2 apart from introducing her for her own series/movie/whatever? WHY didn't they leave Not-John Snow as just Not-John Snow instead of that post credit sequence.... You know the one that WASN'T yer man from One Direction (Jesus). Now we have to watch Captain Marvel, Wandavision and Miss Marvel before watching Marvels? That's 20 hours of programming.

Do we REALLY want Blade to fight Jared Leto or to trade quips with Star Lord? Or have some Family Guy-esque tangential reference like "Wow, I haven't seen THIS many dead bodies since Iron-Man 5: The Quest for Peace"

the original release date for this movie was a year (ish) before secret invasion... not a big mystery.

The after credit scene was up on Youtube so I'm good until this shows up on Disney+ an maybe not even then depending on the general response.

I liked Captain Marvel. The Skrulls were handled surprisingly well, and I enjoyed for once the subversive nature of the final fight....but they haven't compelled me to watch the sequel in the cinema.

They've just lost all control of a tight narrative and that's the biggest issue for me. As others have said, Multiverse was awesome on paper, but it's been done so half heartedly. You have to make these things mean something beyond fan service.

They've had multiple ideas that you could say that about in Phase 4/5. The Skrulls in Secret Invasion is another example, a good idea that could of been fascinating but ended up being a story they couldn't effectively develop.

I'd like to think Deadpool 3 will be the start of the course correction but I have no confidence.

For Deadpool, depending on how much Wolverine is in it, I can see it just being them enjoying themselves with the plot a secondary thing. So could be a fun watch or could be all over the place. But I think they're both professional enough to want to make it as good as they can.

Not surprised by what I've seen review wise. Looks like a pretty bad movie by all accounts. I'm going to not go and see it.

If I'm depressed and hating myself enough I might give it a watch on Disney +.

P.S I see they were giving out free alcoholic beverages at the press screenings...

Edit: meant to put in The Marvels thread.

If you read the thread, very few people want standalone movies.

There are endless posters frustrated that the bigger plot isn't moving on or loose ends arent tied up. People always complain when there isn't a tie in.

What makes the MCU different and what studio after studio has fell on its face trying to build is the interconnectedness.

2025 is going to be busy with Fantastic 4 also.

Would have guessed we'd have another Spider-Man in 2025 but guess that might be one too many and probably too tight to get that into the end of 2024 unless they've something far along behind the scenes.

Wonder how much they're going to change of CA and Thunderbolts. I doubt they were going to be impacted directly by Kang, but if they were to pull Majors then they'd probably need to set up something within these to drive Secret Invasion and whatever would happen to Kang Dynasty.

https://deadline.com/2023/11/box-office-the-marvels-1235599363/

The Marvels is shaping up to be the lowest domestic opening ever for a Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe title, with a 3-day swing of $47M-$55M. That’s lower than Marvel/Universal’s The Incredible Hulk ($55.4M in 2008) and lower than Ant-Man ($57.2M, 2015).