Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Look at the end of the day, the only way the war will end is through negotiations. Whether that’s today, tomorrow, next week, month or year.

I’ll be happy once it’s over and people can get back to some semblance of normality. Apparently that makes me some form of Putin supporter. The world is not black and white. There are shades of gray everywhere.

How do you negotiate with someone who has proven they won't stick to an agreement? Ukraine gave up its soviet era nuclear weapons with an agreement with russia that their borders were to be respected yet now putin has taken part of Ukraine and sent hundreds of thousands of troops there to occupy the land they ceased or die trying to do so. I have read some of the weapons they gave up have actually been fired back at Ukraine by putin's forces just to make it even clearer that putin can not be trusted.

The idea that there was going to be a massive break in the moskovyte lines this summer and the occupying troops would be expelled quickly from Ukraine was a nice idea but I suspect Ukraine is aware that they need to destroy putin's war machine so it can't be used against them again and unfortunately I don't think that is going to be achieved very quickly. The Ukrainians are however making progress.

The negotiation is Russia leaves.

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if you think that Ukrainians will accept any kid of " Deal" with the monster who has unleashed hell on their country, its you who needs to think again. If all support for Ukraine was to collapse in the morning ( it won't) and Putin rode into Kiev on his tanks in victory celebrations,, his hell would only be starting. In 10 years Russia was unable to subdue Afghanistan, and remember, his military had the full run of the Country on land and in the air. Yet they failed. And one of the reasons they failed was because the cost of keeping in Afghanistan the military to keep it subdued. It was driving Russia to bankruptcy. Another reason was the Nr of body bags coming home each week, and this was microscopic compared to the Nr of dead and injured Russian's that have and are coming back to Russia on a weekly basis from Ukraine. Ukraine will still be there and still Ukrainian long after Putin and his mafia thugs are long dead and gone. Puti bit off more than he can chew, and already the indigestion is settling in and eventually, it will kill him.

Lets see in 1 year the importance of artillery, no doubht it will still be important, but drones are coming ahead in leaps and bounds rapidly

Much cheaper and more accurate to send one drone instead of 4 shells

This war is constantly changing, not just this war but probably also wars in the future

Yeah and no ,

Drone is effective where and when you don't have to deal with electronic warfare systems,but when you have dedicated modem systems drones loose effectiveness,the fpv drones being used in Ukraine are operating on 2.5-5 GHz Radio, Jam those properly your drones become a paperweight, where 4 155mm do serious damage and you Can't jam them ,and while drones look like the future more and more counter drones are coming online , small drones have very limited operating times something like 25 minutes at most and that drops dramatically in cold weather

Preparation for seaborne invasion?

It is interesting that he says "we" got him in...we as in FSB.

True and when you extend the argument the question becomes 'Is this really Putin's war or is he just a useful fanatic, fronting a sinister FSB war?' People say Putin went a bit crazy during lockdown and started a war. I think it is more complex than that.

There is no point negotiating with Russia. Russia doesn't abide by its own agreements. Putin may not be immortal but there is no great appetite for a functional democratic society in Russia. Who comes after Putin will be just as bad or worse.

The only way Ukraine survives is for Russia to be completely broken or Russia to withdraw to its own borders while agreeing to hand over it's citizens involved in the multitude of war crimes committed by Russia; along with Russian assets being used to cover the reconstruction of the sovereign country it decided to invade. There is no happy ending here and no amount of Hellen Lovejoy esque wringing of hands will make it ok.

As you know he's his one loyal army within the military,two main objective squash decent and keep him in power,

There's a few names very important here. Putin is the mouthpiece. But these are the fanatics who drive what orders come from the Kremlin.

These are : Nikolai Patrushev

Sergei Naryshkin

Alexander Bortnikov

Sergei Shoigu

 Bortnikov and Patrushev’s sons have become powerful Russian officials. Dmitry Patrushev is Russia’s minister for agriculture and Denis Bortnikov is the deputy president and chairman of the state-run VTB Bank’s management board.

Mafias.

Edit: if you wanted change in Russia. Target those names above and maybe leave the husk of Putin.