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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    Oisin does love getting involved in a bit of drama doesn’t he. He wasn’t too impressed when people were calling him out for not paying his bills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭893bet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    What Oisin did with the people he didn’t pay is just the same as what Anthony has done .Obviously different levels but still the same scam of not paying the bills because they were living the flash life .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    The irony of what he said to Anthony was not lost on me either. Oisin was right, but just like Anthony,, Oisin has built a narrative around himself that proves he is always right and always somehow the victim. These watch geezers are a strange bunch. I feel more sorry for Anthony, I dont think he has the mental capacity to realise what he is doing, Oisin is smarter and a bit more sinister and aggressive. Very similar chaps really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    Yeah Anthony comes across like a gambler who’s waiting for the next win to pay for the last loss but with Oisin as you say its more sinister, a narcissistic personality or similar.

    I wonder is it all true with Anthony though . Is it a 5 million debt or really only a few hundred K ? A little bit of drama like his disappearance act ?Clearing 100ks of business debt is one thing but with the best will in the world it will take forever to clear 5million just from the profit on selling watches .

    His day 1 and so on of debt reduction is very well organised, nearly scripted .Its hard to believe either of them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Boring as hell by day 4. Like a bad version of the film “phone booth”.


    Who the **** would buy a watch from him or what dealer would allow him to sell their inventory at this point.


    Also what kinda fool would buy a watch from the videographer and the box shipper slinging watches from their cars. Jesus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Folks, on another note and this was something which hadn't actually crossed my mind. I was watching a few videos recently and they mentioned the lifespan of a movement and a watch such as my original Seiko 5 has a 7S26 movement which is supposed to have a lifespan of 30 years. I bought the watch about 20 years ago, so I'm curious. Is a figure like that conservative? If it's accurate, what's typically done? Surely it's not worth having such a cheap movement serviced. Do they service them out of sentimentality? Do they just fit a new movement?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    You can have the movement serviced if you wish to keep the watch as was.

    What most will suggest is upgrade the movement to Seiko SII nh36. This is preferable as its newer, hacks and handwinds. They cost about sixty quid and ime they regulate up more accurately than 7s26 do.

    The black 7s26 plastic movement holder would have to be transferred onto the nh36 requiring you to remove the day date disc and retaining plate which is somewhat tricky but doable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,194 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    From what I have read online from people in the industry, from Tudor down movements are replaced. If you want to keep the original movement, as Harry said, you can request it. Obviously it's going to be more expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    Just for a bit of context, I bought a Vostok Partner in Minsk in 2002. It runs the same 2416b automatic movement as the Vostok Amphibia series.

    I had it serviced in 2020, or rather cleaned, checked and oiled with a specialist, as it needed nothing more.

    It originally cost $11. The postage was more than that and the service multiples.

    But, fully expect it to last another 20 years.

    Never saw another one like it. I loves it!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    If you don't mind my asking, how much should I expect for a service of a fairly basic movement? Can you or anyone else recommend someone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    Not really, I'm afraid.

    I send my Vostok and Poljot watches to Julian Kampmann in Munch. He is very reasonably priced, but only for these.

    Locally, even for something like a 7S26, I doubt you'll be out for less than €200.

    The price list here: https://vintagewatchrepair.ie/repair-prices/

    Is probably a good guide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭banie01


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭j2


    Caught up on some of the TPG drama. It was a moment of delicious ironing when Oisin went on the stream to criticise, granted among other things, the TPG's hubris and drinking! I do think he made valid points though, you don't often see people put across such unvarnished criticism so kudos to him for that. He has grown on me a bit lately, his channel is back to being good again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,221 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    It would have been perfect if it wasn’t double standards really because oisin no money did the same thing on a smaller scale to nico

    funny to watch all the same

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭mik_da_man


    General question about adding/removing links, do people tend to use a dab of glue on the screws?

    I read a bit about using it, but not sure if it's required/advised



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,221 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    I don’t think there’s any need, once you’ve had to remove a screw that had loctiite glue added you will see it’s a mistake

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    Removing screws with locktite on them is such a pain in the hole.


    Spent probably an hour trying to get screws out of my Sinn bracelet when resizing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I do cos it says thats what the manufacturer does. And I guess they do so for a reason cos when you think about it if it ever comes loose you most likely will only realise once your price possession slams onto the concrete or disappears into the Liffey or something.

    And when I resized my AT there was indeed glue on the screws. Which was easily loosened by warming the bracelet up a little in that spot. Couple of seconds with a lighter will do. Hair dryer will probably work too.

    But I'm just little anal about such things. Maybe its over the top.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


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    I use this blue goo threadlock stuff, same as the Loctite version. Holds screws no bother, but also no bother to undo the same screws. Just needs a little extra torque, but it does mean once tightened as per normal they won't walk themselves out. I initially used thread lock after losing two screws(in one feckin' day) out of my Heuer 1550, with its weird 1930's patent "waterproof" case, held in with four screws. To replace them I needed to buy a set of four, a hundred plus quid, so thought feck that. I've since used it on bracelet screws too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,221 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Lighters

    hairdryers

    extra torque

    as Archie would say fmd guys

    if you have a screw with watch glue or loctite on the bracelet just use slightly cooled boiling water, I think that was shown to me when working in Hatton garden 28 years ago, the same man also said never replace the glue it just wastes time and breaks screws and screw driver heads and his shop is still going strong in the watch and gold trade

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    So yesterday, a deal was announced for Rolex taking full ownership of Bucherer's retail ops and locations. Today? Watches of Switzerland is down 22% on LSE and price fall could continue.

    Fairly clear that Rolex's entry into authentication and resale earlier this year was perhaps a soft launch for them going in a bit heavier on the retail side. What next? Rolex going down the path of more boutiques? Perhaps even boutique only models?

    It certainly gives them far more control over retail and secondary markets than they've had previously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I had a phonecall today from Keanes, whom I've been on the "list" with for quite a while at this stage. Anyway rather than inviting me in to lay my money down for a sub? It was a discussion of my previous purchase history, a couple of questions about my watch history, and asking if I'd bought them from Keanes. Then it was an invite to drop in to the shop to re-confirm my place on their "expression of interest" list...

    The girl on the phone, well lets just say she was working to a script and it wasn't a great one.

    Suffice it to say I'm no longer on their list, which at this point, should be called a supplicant list rather than an expression of interest list, fúck that for a game of soldiers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Boiling water sounds very practical. 👌

    The main point IMO is don't force the thread lock (and break expensive screwdrivers and/or mess up your screws) when the glue has a built-in release method as in applying heat.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭mik_da_man


    That's disappointing to hear.

    Were you on the list over a year or two and any purchase history there?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    IMHO many if not most of the problems come from an (understandable) ignorance of the adhesives and their applications involved as it entirely depends on the glue used. EG in the loctite threadlock range the blue type is significantly weaker than the red(there's a green gel type that's even stronger).

    The latter pretty much requires the application of heat to release it. Unlike the blue it's not designed for applications that may require future disassembly. NB above on my spurious goo it states "Allows for disassembly". Blue requires slightly more torque, but you certainly don't have to hang out of the screwdriver.

    Then you get guys who might substitute in ordinary superglue or things like nail polish, or go full daft and use epoxy...

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Fair and understandable to say yer not enjoying the ad experience there B! :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    On their list since 2019 or at very latest, early 2020. A bit of purchase history, no watches but diamonds and some other bits.

    An understatement, and with many grey prices falling back to near retail for steel subs. Not a dance I'm interested in partaking in. Would I like to get one at retail, of course. But I'd like to also keep a little self respect 🤣

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,643 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Sorry to hear about your experience, but "the list" doesn't exist. Sure your name might be on a list of people who have expressed interest, but there is zero relation between your "place" on the list or how long you have waited and being offered a Rolex steel sports watch

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Self respect is overrated, the blisters on your knees and tongue will heal! :)

    You should walk into weirs pished and demand cake and fine wine!!! "Bring me the stainless sports watches post haste lickspittle!"

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