Cork City - anti social behaviour etc... what's being done?

As I said nowhere to park .

Ah, don't be gaslighting people 🤣

What would people who actually live in the city centre know?

The City Centre has deteriorated in terms of Anti Social behavior because the Gardai do not patrol in the way they used to, do not deal with drinking on the street and there are too many facilities to accommodate chronic heroin addicts in the city centre which in turn facilitates drug dealers and others that exploit heroin addicts. This concentration of services in turn creates the atmosphere for some extreme violence and anti social behavior.

Sure we have one poster on here for years telling anyone expressing concern for the state of the city that they're overreacting precious petals, yet also recently calling for the Gardai to go in cracking heads at peaceful protests simply because they have a different view to them on a topic.

Let's look at the positives. We have no active gangland feuds in Cork. There's no need for armed gardai to be patrolling parts of the city 24/7. Of course while Cork may not be as nice as it once was, it's still safer than most other cities imo.

But don't you know that, irrespective of what you are doing, as long as you keep repeating the words "peaceful protest", then it is a peaceful protest?

There is precedent for this.

Because as per the thread title it's a form of anti social behaviour.

If you're referring to the group of scum carrying out a campaign of harrasment against libraries and pharmacists then they are not peaceful protesters.

The topic of the library protests themselves, and whether they are good, bad, or indifferent, is indeed a separate discussion. The point is that you have posters here who will call for people involved in peaceful protests that they don't like (distasteful they may be, violent they are not) to be subject to strong Garda action, while dismissing wholesale the city's slide into degeneracy and violence as the fevered imaginings of a few pearl clutchers and that people who are concerned at scumbags and junkies running amok should toughen up a little. We see similar in political discourse with the violent actions of scumbags being excused by the classic "dey have no facilideez" and many variants thereof - just witness the political reaction to the savage assault on that American chap in Dublin. Such minimizing, excusing, and tolerance of real, violent, antisocial behaviour in the city on a daily basis is one of the roots of the current situation where families are abandoning the city centre wholesale because they simply don't feel safe. If some bunch of loons want to put up a banner about Topic X, or chant the Hail Mary or Hare Krishna or whatever I couldn't give a hoot - they're not going to crack me over the head with a bottle for a laugh. The roving gang of teenage scumbags robbing and committing assaults - I think I have a lot more to worry about from them TBH. I know where I'd prefer to see scarce Garda resources targeted.

Yeah I've been reading and have had very polite disagreements with a few posters on here but don't really see the point in responding to heavy hyperbole or disingenuous concern trolling.

TBH the impression I get (from fora in general, not just this one, and not only recently) is that many of those who play down just how much the Irish 'system' is facilitating a spiralling decline in public safety in its towns and cities ("LOL some people are scared of teens in hoodies", "sure, you'd get the same in downtown Mogadishu", etc) don't have kids. I guess it makes a difference in perception.

Another tourist attacked and apparently knocked out in Dublin last night - but hey, maybe the perps are 'disadvantaged' with 'addiction issues', sure God love them.....

I think we can agree or disagree on plenty of those points, as those are politics. I don't think it's the state's responsibility to provide houses for every human in the country. That's a fast route to bankruptcy and even worse social problems in my opinion. No-one should have a "right" to be housed imho. You should ideally be enabled to get yourself educated, become a productive member of society and sort out your own accommodation.

Locally, Cork city council should have a very defined remit on what it does, and be competent at those

Should be operational work first of all, because that is most important , keep the place ticking over.

• Monitoring and maintaining existing city assets and infrastructure - parks, city hall, museums etc
• Monitoring the companies / state bodies who maintain the infrastructure we need in the city. Water, waste facilities, gas, electricity, internet, roads, rail, airport , yadda yadda.
• Monitoring and improving effectivity of services like cleaning, lighting, waste disposal services, policing services, public transport.
• Community (event planning)

And capital projects to make improvements, or lifecycle the existing facilities.

• Providing basic public facilities like toilets and drinking water fountains
• Upgrading or providing new parks, event centers etc
• Giving input for roadmaps for future public transport routes
• etc.

When it's wrapped up in housing lists, providing social and healthcare services for drug users, parking enforcement, then nothing else can be done with the people they have available. Messes like that suck all the oxygen out of the room. Those should be outsourced, or tackled by the state services with some decent funding and expertise, not locally, imho.