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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Packrat


    It's hilarious watching posters from both left and right coming in here complaining about the prominence of the other side.

    Laughable lack of self awareness by some on both sides.

    The mods and the general zeitgeist are on the left, as are most vocal Irish people today. That's to be expected.

    There's a large cohort who are somewhat conservative which is also to be expected given the probable average age and gender here. The "middle Ireland so to speak, the people who don't feel listened to, those who pay for everything yet are entitled to nothing, the "ordinary Joe" so to speak. I identify in that category.

    Then there's the cry in the dark more right-wing cohort who are small but very vocal. They tend to attract likes from the middle group, say things which appeal to us but ultimately they're a cancer and not helpful.

    There is another small hard left group who label, appeal to virtue, authority, and to the mods (who usually acquiesce) in labeling all the rest of us who don't agree as "hard right wing" racist, zhenophobic fascists.

    In short: It's fxccked up and even Bob can't fix it.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Same as there is half the site complaining that people are making reports in the first place and the other half complaining that reports are not acted on. Shows you can’t please everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,792 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Feeling persecuted for being told to read a couple of posts?

    I spoon fed you everything you asked for and you still moaned. And to put that in context I provided links I was asked for, I took screen shots of relevant points and even highlighted relevant sentences and you still weren't happy.

    Short of calling to your home and reading things to you there wasn't much else I could do to oblige you but you left that out whilst attempting to contextualise things didn't you?

    Your behaviour here is a prime example of what's wrong with the site these days. I didn't show your username in the picture I posted because I was making a point about how people interact with each other, I wasn't looking to bring the argument from the other thread in here but just talk about how insidious the behaviour had become and you've demonstrated it beautifully following me in here along with other posters settling scores and sticking the boot in as much as possible.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,792 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    We've been instructed to not engage with each other (I was told this by Beasty, he said he'd said the same to you). I don't quote you and try to avoid you as much as possible, only replying when you inevitably begin quoting me and picking a fight, usually by misrepresenting me in some way. And there's always the inevitable "Who? Me? You've got me all wrong, blah blah blah" whenever I get to this point of trying to ask you to stop interacting with me.

    I don't go looking for you Overheal, you're the one keeping this crap up. Do is both a favour and stop engaging with me because I'm only ever replying to you to defend myself and I'm tired of it, it's a miserable experience dealing with you, you make this site a worse place to be.

    Let's stop engaging once and for all.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭Polar101


    If you wanted to improve the site, some kind of a reorganisation of different forums might be needed. There are so many subforums and the site is difficult to navigate under Vanilla. For example, there are eleven subcategories under "Technology & Internet", and under there five subforums under "Cable & Digital TV". Maybe they are all needed, I don't know. Most of the "Helpdesk/Feedback" section is filled with random questions from new users who don't seem to have a clue on how the site works. How is any new user going to find a discussion, unless it's something on the front page? Even this forum, "Current Affairs/IMHO" is under "Social & Fun" - not something I'd click if I was looking for a forum on current affairs.

    But maybe it would be too much.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    With all due respect, I have as much right to defend myself from a post like that above, especially when you place such lofty blame on me, for the website's tribulations ("when you're being misrepresented there's always that need to defend yourself." - Nullzero). One post above that you're mocking another poster Flaneur OBrian as "feeling persecuted," talking down to and condescending to them, being hostile, treating them poorly; in the next here you are seemingly accusing me of persecuting you... I don't understand where you get this view when within the last week and a half we had a productive conversation about Irish religious establishment where we both mutually agreed. You claim you aren't looking for conflicts but then attempt to goad with comments like "I'm just not that into you" etc. in your posts, you talk down to others ("I spoon fed you everything you asked for and you still moaned.") but then accuse others of "keeping this crap up." When I agreed with your argument about the Irish constitution you didn't say anything about Beasty or threadbans or being instructed to not quote me, anything of the sort.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,792 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    You're the one always quoting me. I'm never going to seek you out, if you feel you need to defend yourself from me just remember who began the interaction to begin with.

    We agreed on one issue, but to put that in context getting to that point was a slog of immense proportions with you being as combative and uncivil as possible to begin with.

    I don't mind rigorous discussion, but with you it's not an enjoyable experience, you can at times have up to five posts in a row on one page with various demands sometimes arguing with more than one person at a time. It's a head melt just trying to keep up. When I get a notification that "Overheal has mentioned you..." my reaction isn't positive, dealing with you is like a job I don't get paid for.

    It's not fair to expect others to wade through this back and forth (this is the main reason I leave you to your owns devices as much as possible) but it's a relevant point in how interaction between users on this site has become a lot less enjoyable than it was previously.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    A lot of that goes back way before Vanilla to a time when the forum categories were reorganised and it made everything harder to find. The official solution at the time was to search for the forums but it never really worked. Come to think of it, that might have been the start of the decline here because it did kill off some forums by making them harder to find. The Cable and Digital TV forums are still fairly busy with the exception of Broadcasting History.

    I think the Helpdesk/Feedback issue is because when you tap the "New Discussion" link on mobile, the Talk To forums (including Helpdesk and Feedback) are the first ones in the list. I suggested moving them but they probably have it that way for the last handful of companies still using Talk To.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,081 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    No one poster can request others not to respond to them. When you click 'Post comment' on a discussion board, it's out of your hands as to who comments or whatever.

    Also, you've posted on this thread a number of times that you aren't going to engage with a poster, and yet you continue to do so. This isn't Twitter where you can block someone. Nor should it be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    I'll tell you what's mad, and absolutely indicative of exactly what the "higher ups" think of the userbase.

    A 500+ post, 18+ page thread about the state of the website, and it hasn't been moved to a correct forum for this type of discussion, no visible input from the CA Mods or the "higher ups".

    Lads, they don't give a single shiney turd what any of you (we) think, or care about addressing issues or fixing things.

    This sure is a great thread for generating content and clicks though. 🤙



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  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Rocco Wide Cub


    Is that because there’s about 500 of these exact same threads in help desk already?

    besides this thread is the very example of the “imho” part of CA



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    There was a time where posters would announce on thread that they've reported a post, it still happens the odd time. I've seen mod warnings on threads telling individuals to stop abusing the report post function or they would be threadbanned.

    It has been said in Feedback threads that mods don't read all threads (understandably) and often just respond to reported posts. They will then look at those reported posts without reading the full thread.

    Not all reported posts will be acted on though, so it would help if anyone repeatedly reporting for spurious reasons was given some guidance, and then warnings if it continued.

    Whenever I've seen "post reported" announced on thread it has been a case of "I don't like your opinion" or "how dare you disagree with me", rather than a genuine issue with the content of the post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,792 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    There was a general piece of advice given from Beasty to myself and Overheal to avoid each other.

    I've tried to follow that as much as I can but I keep getting quoted by Overheal, I don't always reply but when the content of his posts isn't fair I'll reply.

    Glazers Out!



  • Posts: 522 [Deleted User]


    Overheal spamming and derailing another thread. And unintentionally answering the OP at the same time.

    This is what’s wrong with boards. A small number of posters who are constantly arguing in bad faith in every thread. Misquoting, accusing and demanding citations. Deliberately deflecting and derailing everything and believing they’re winning. Destroying any reasonable discussions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart




  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Rocco Wide Cub


    Seen it where? I’ve searched high and low and cannot identify one single post where a mod told any poster, not to mention a group, they’ll be threadbanned or otherwise if they report posts.

    This is both in public and mod only forums. This is not something we do and never discourage users to report posts they feel need our attention.

    So can you kindly provide links or screenshots to these posts? If I’m wrong I’ll throw my hands up but I very much doubt I am.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    I think I have a Pm were I was told I was abusing the report function and would be forum banned.

    As a user i do not have any sight of what I have reported, so being threatened for using the report function seems a bit excessive

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    hahaha, you can not be serious

    It has happened numerous, multiple times in the past that people have been told to stop reporting posts

    I've no idea why you are claiming otherwise, it's bizarre



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




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  • Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you are continuously reporting posts then the problem is with you. You probably need to stop taking the internet so seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,081 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Given that you specifically called out a poster, why do you accuse them of doing this, but not the poster on the other side of that discussion? It takes two to tango.

    And not to be speaking for the poster you are calling out here, but a lot of time the accusations of 'arguing in bad faith' are used to get someone removed from the discussion simply because people don't like that their posts are being challenged.

    This is a discussion Board the whole purpose of the site is to allow for back and forth and while I'm aware that some topics involve stronger views than others, and can get more heated than others, this is reflective of real life in these areas and these are discussions that need to be had in my view.

    There's crossing a line and being abusive, and should never be seen as acceptable. But the trend in moderation of these discussions of removing the individuals responsibility for particular opinions expressed is the wrong approach in my view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    ‘There is a cult of ignorance in the United States Boards.ie and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy online discussion means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

    Isaac Asimovin Newsweek (21 January 1980) 

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,567 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Jayzuz how do you know all of this? You must spend all your time in certain threads like LGBT or Trump or Russia something. I wouldn’t know a leftie from a rightie if my life depended on it.

    Me, I like the Harry and Meaghan thread- don’t think there are any right wingers or left wingers on that one but we have a hell of a time taking the pizz out of them both 😛



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It’s a discussion forum. I don’t begrudge you to have a chat with as many users in one thread as you like. You’re now complaining about my posts that have *nothing to do with you* as well? Not even about the content of my posts, just that they audaciously, exist.

    Notifications are annoying that’s why as soon as we switched to vanilla I manually went about shutting those all off on my end. That’s not my problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ^ on the contrary this is what is wrong with boards. I’m active in a couple of threads on one forum and that’s what’s wrong with the whole site apparently. The problem seems to be users who seek to constantly engage in personalities and wishcast users get silenced etc. instead of focusing on central topics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Just on the pub analogy.

    It doesn’t work with boards anymore.

    When there’s a discussion that’s either going around in circles, or in danger of exploding, there’s usually someone on the pub table that tries to change the subject to something innocuous, like did you see the new Bond or whatever. And the table as a whole can change subject and find common ground.

    Quite a lot of users just seem to inhibit the same threads (nothing wrong with that, per se), but by ONLY talking culture war bollocks (and it usually is, from both sides) how can that divide be bridged? Where can common ground be found if the only things I know about a poster is that they’re transmisiacs and don’t like lefty’s?

    There are a couple of right wing posters here who I enjoy reading. I obviously don’t agree with them on many points, but they’re not constantly hammering home the exact same point. The ones I enjoy reading don’t waffle on and are fairly succinct.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,611 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    If I had my own way, a number of posters with nothing but malice and spite in their intentions - and have nothing constructive in any manner to offer the forums - would have been site banned quite a while ago.

    Boards unfortunately does have a notable problem with these sort of posters. They flock to the CA/IMHO forum likes flies to.....



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  • Posts: 3,733 [Deleted User]


    But what if you are reading their intentions incorrectly? And if you aren't how can you police an intention? Why would you even want to?



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