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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    So that's an interesting angle alright.

    I am assuming it's pretty common that when you upgrade/change your car you may not always want to dispose of the old one for whatever reason. So you move it to someone else's name, keep it taxed, and then use it occasionally using your own 3rd party extension. I can't see anything in any policy documentation that invalidates that - even in the small print.

    Secondly, working within the spirit of the "disc in the window" principle, as you're using your 3rd party extension from another main policy would you not just put that in the window to be legit? As the policy number that covers use of the car is surely the important piece of information?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭wassie


    The 3 disc system is archaic in 2023. The need for a physical disc is completely redundant after Garda finally decided a few years back to join the 21st centrury adopting of ANPR technology that makes use of the unqiue identification number in the registration plate.

    Also not exactly sustainable to be producing these things, along with the cost associated with making and distributing them. I had a relative visit from Aus last year find our 3 discs a complete laugh and said their state govt did away with their annual registration stickers in 2005!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    No, as the disc specifies cover with a different registration plate. The disc indicates that that other car is covered, not the one you are driving on your extension. It's a distinction, because the main car is insured but you as a person are insured to drive another car. Personally I think we should move to an Insure the person as opposed to Insure the car MO.

    I currently own 4 cars but on paper I own 1. Most are not on the road though as they are projects. Back when I drove regularly my "other cars" I had them insured and in my name under classic insurance but I'm not paying for a policy for a year when it may only be one or two drives a year to keep everything fresh or to go to the NCT or mechanic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    So how does one use 3rd party extension to drive a car that does not have its own active policy?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭paxreseuropa


    Out of interest does any one have the figures available for the average distance an EV does in Ireland and how much kWh of energy it would consume per annum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I don't know of any figures available, but presume distance travelled would be similar to diesel/petrol. Perhaps higher due to many buying an EV to commute longer distances?

    Say 15K kms per year(I think it's a little less) x 170Wh/km = 2550kWh per year.

    Just a guess, many will be less than 170Wh per km, but above probably close enough taking in a bit of charging loss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I'd say you're pretty close to the money, but given there's so many thirsty electric CUVs, a figure closer to 19kWh/100km would be closer IMO

    So that gives 2,850kWh per year

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Was just checking my Tesla app to see rough Kwh used for last 12 months. I did a bit less than my normal mileage.

    17K kms. 2271kWh. Total Cost €290. 84% Home, 9% Supercharger, 7% Other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I've only started tracking month by month consumption from the charger recently, so pop back next June and I'll have detailed data to show you 😁

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Listening to this lad complain away about eCVT gearboxes makes me glad I bought a BEV with exactly one gear 😂

    It's almost as if those ICE cars have become more fragile because they're constantly higher strung to meet emissions standards....

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    My figures above are if anything a bit on the high side price wise. Most of my solar charging is included at my night rate electricity price of 8c/kWh. About a month ago I changed the costings on app so that any day time home charging is at zero cost, the only time we ever charge during the day is on solar.

    I was surprised my last 12 months mileage was lower than normal, previous number of years was around 18-20k kms. But I was away for about 2 months..☺️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭paxreseuropa


    Ah cheers for this info its helpful, much appreciated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭sonyvision


    Took a leaf 40k 192 model to my parents, 165km door to door all N and Motorway so average speed was around 105kph untill I got 50km from home and saw the range has been hammered to 70km remaining dropped the speed to 90kph and arrived with 25km or 10% remaining at the house. 100% fully charged but the headwind killed the range but I do wonder did I really have 25km range at the speed or would it fall away quicker.

    Anyway on granny charge now for the return trip tomorrow, hopefully no headwind as the wife is driving and will be stuck to 120kph 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    You could probably check it out with abetterrouteplanner and see what the estimated arrival percentage would be. Easy enough to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Looks like Christmas came early in Lower Saxony 😁

    First of three plants across Europe and Canada which will produce enough cells for two million cars annually by 2027. Interestingly they said they would produce 200GWh so some quick math tells me that's 100kWh per car

    That's....quite a lot considering that's currently the capacity of the largest and most expensive VW ID cars

    So it's possible they could make a lot more cars if the ID.2 does well

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Saw an ad today for this on rte

    the range quote of “up to 1,100km” caught my eye - does any other “hybrid” manufacturer quote range ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    WTF is a "full hybrid"? Sounds like they're making the marketing material sound as close as possible to a "full electric" EV

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,043 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Yeah I did a double take at an ad for it on tv last night. It’s deliberately deceptive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭creedp


    I thought initially they had gone do the road of Nissan's e-power system but no it's just a basic hybrid system supported by another bullshit bingo EV term. I see also Renault have also decided if you can't beat em [Toyota & Hyundai] join em



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭wassie


    Differentiates between their 'mild' hybrid engine which is available on other models like the Arkana.

    Mild hybrids are complete BS considering they generally offer max fuel savings in the order of 10% under ideal conditions, yet can add a couple of thousand onto the price over a standard ICE. This means very long payback period and very little reduction in carbon emissions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Electric vehicle marketing jargon buster:

    Mild hybrid (MHEV) - petrol car with an unnecessarily complicated gearbox

    Hybrid (HEV) - petrol car with somewhat more unnecessarily complicated gearbox

    Plug in hybrid (PHEV) - A fully electric car with the good bits removed and replaced with a petrol engine, see above

    Any other model type with "e" in the same but still has an exhaust - see the 3 entries above

    Battery electric vehicle (BEV) - a vehicle powered solely by an electric motor and batteries, charged from an external source. The only thing that comes out the back are sunshine, rainbows and the occasional sound effects to let you know it's coming

    Electric vehicle - often used to describe a BEV but can technically describe any vehicle that uses an electric motor for movement. The term has been appropriated recently to describe several hybrids (looking at you Nissan 😉)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,316 ✭✭✭zg3409


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    Charging at a snail's pace on CCS. Not my pic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Yeah I saw the ad saying 600km+ of 'range' and was telling my missus you don't quote petrol cars in range.

    Even though my petrol Golf did say 'range' on the screen nobody says it has "750km range" they'd say it's 750km to a full tank. Cars are never advertised with range either, only L/100km consumption. Really shady marketing from Renault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭discostu1


    Not sure if this is the right place but one of mine is near Tampa and was in the Ellenton Mall today and sent me pictures of their charging network

    IMG_0439.jpeg IMG_0440.jpeg IMG_0442.jpeg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Picked up my auction leaf and drove it home yesterday. 2.5k for 9/12 bars, 80k km, taxed and tested (short on both) with all cables included. Can't see a thing wrong with her, glad to be in the leaf family again. Charged on Chademo on the way home too. She's topping up on solar as we speak.

    I really don't understand why people would not have one of these as their second car.



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    With that price you can't possibly go wrong. A friend is picking up an even lower mileage one with 11/12 bars today as their first EV. Top up from solar and you have as close to a free car as humanely possible that can also be driven beyond the range in an emergency because the Chad.

    What's the range in practice now on yours? The lack of % display on the early cars makes it harder for novices to take it down towards zero but you have no trouble there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Stevie2001


    Because an old Corolla is just as reliable and your not limited to 50-60km ( very few gonna risk going under 20% battery and charging to 100% is not recommend )

    In that old Corolla the low fuel petrol comes up at 80km and that's the max range of the Leaf



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    I doubt the old Corolla is as high spec as the old Leaf. Even newer ones I've been in (as rentals ) were very spartan/1990s inside.



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