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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I could be wrong but I remember the Ioniq 5 having much bigger mirrors than the Model 3?

    Small mirrors might be better for aerodynamics, but it does give you the blind spot visibility of an Abrams battle tank

    Particularly unhelpful when manoeuvring into a very space efficient Irish parking space instead of a super sized American one than can fit two Polos 😂

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Is the issue not also that car companies have prioritized bigger cars e.g. ID4 came out before ID2.

    Hyundai or Kia haven't brought out a I10,20,30 equivalent etc....

    BMW no 1 or 2 series EV only 4 and 5



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,432 ✭✭✭markpb


    There are relatively few oversized cars in Ireland. Yes they’re very heavy and yes they’re stupidly dangerous for pedestrians but their overall impact (in Ireland) is thankfully low.

    On the other hand, the average car sold here is now a CUV so on average, every car is slightly taller and slightly heavier. The introduction of EVs will further increase the average weight. This means that pedestrians will be slightly more at risk and fuel consumption (fossil or electric) will be higher than it would be if sedans were still popular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    More money in bigger cars



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Yes, the Model 3 mirrors are a little on the small size. They were larger on my old ID.3



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    All true, the argument is they couldn't produce the smaller cars economically with decent sized batteries

    I reckon some of the Chinese hatchback EVs like the MG4 have disproved that claim

    Going back to the France conversation, I do vaguely remember the best selling EVs here were Tesla's, Zoe's or 500e's

    So half of those are small hatchbacks more suited for city driving, which are definitely in the minority of EV models available now

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I will say that the SUVs we have in Ireland are pretty small compared to the things they have in the US. Something like an ID.4 is considered on the smaller side there

    I remember I was in Albuquerque years ago and seeing the lads driving around in the full sized brodozers. These things would probably be considered a truck over here and you needed a ladder to get into half of them

    All the car parks over there had extra large spaces for those things

    I'd laugh to see the fuel bill for one of them in Ireland

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Talk about backing the wrong horse….

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    A recent twitter thread on ‘thing I’d rather do than spend the weekend at a wellness retreat that the happy pear are hocking’ was something to behold

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Link please, that sounds like a good laugh 😁

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭creedp


    As my auld lad said about a U2 concert, ''if I was fencing I wouldn't cross the ditch to look at em''



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    Anyone know of NIO launching in Ireland. They mention the UK on some of their PR so I assume once they are making RHD we will get them.

    We need more estates/options. The ET5 touring below looks good to me.

    NIO-ET5-Touring-1.jpeg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,741 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Somebody on Facebook posted about driving their i4 on the motorway at 90kph. Surely if BMW Ireland read that, they'd try to repossess the car?



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    Looks great, would be on a top of my list of future cars to buy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I think part of the reason may be nct may be easier on them. Also in cities the french actually may crash into your car and push it to make a parking space bigger and it's considered ok. Same happens in Italian cities. This would encourage you to drive a small car that can take a few scrapes.

    French cars probably have french mechanics that can fix them easily and the parts plentyful with knowledge.

    Here in Ireland mechanics seem to know VW best and so many people drive older VWs which can be diagnosed and repaired even with major engine issues etc. Mechanics know them inside out.

    The french weather may have less rust and maybe less desire to drive a 231. Indeed in Germany you don't see as many VW as in Ireland and indeed Germany had lots of older cars on the roads compared to Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭zg3409



    Quote Our vans run on compressed natural gas, helping to reduce our vehicle CO² emissions by over 20%. End quote

    So good at least one of them is driving an EV, and I know nationwide delivery vans might not be ideal for EV yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Yeah I saw the crashing when parking to push cars out of the way, found it very funny to see. Thought it was just one lad doing it but have seen it multiple times where if it was done here the guards would be called



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,741 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I wonder which countries have the right idea about what the 'bumpers' are for.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    I saw a german review of them and the battery swap thing is a novelty but in general the car is just annoying. Theres a siri type assistant that keeps yapping if you do one 1km over the limit and cannot be told to shut up but aparantly this is a positive with the chinese . The lane assist was also a bit crazy going through roadworks and the likes (possibly with more yappin from yer one the voice assistant)

    I'm sure they'll improve those things over time, but for now its a rather good car let down by its software



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    A Spanish friend reliably informed me that it is perfectly normal that, while parallel parking, you reverse until you hit the car behind. And likewise when going forward again. And you never leave much more than a foot between cars, so as to make the parking available for the maximum number of cars. Most number plates in Spain are of the metal variety and are usually well bent and damaged even on newer cars...🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭creedp


    Would have sat back with the popcorn if those lads tried to squeeze into the half car space left by a gobshite I saw parking across 2 spaces in his/her 231 Ioniq 5 recently. Amazing despite all the driver aids packed into new cars these days, some people cant/won't or are too selfish to get the basics right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Was in Helen Mirren who said on Top Gear that the best way to drive around Paris was in a small car covered in dents. Then everyone thinks your a lunatic and keeps away from you

    I think the EV gods heard my complaint because I've seen a good few more EVs in the past couple of days, mostly Tesla's and a few Zoe's

    However, the majority of the more expensive EVs I've seen to far have Dutch plates. I guess they're heading south for the sunshine and taking the Tesla to use the Supercharger network

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,741 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Do the Dutch still hook up their caravans to the Model 3s ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭wassie


    UK consumer organisation Which!, as part of their wider annual car survey, asked over 3000 EV owners how much the range of their car had decreased since they bought it.

    So, although battery degradation occurs in EVs, our data shows it’s not something you should be overly concerned about.

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    The results are interesting enough to be indicative even if the sample size and methodology is not robust enough to draw solid conclusions. The article at least does touch on the distinction between new vs older technologies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Saw this in Paris, was eating pizza in a cafe facing the window and a little 90s looking Citroen was parallel parking, bumped the car in front and behind gently to get in. Different story there as there's plenty of 90s/early 00s cars on the roads unlike here where you can't get insurance quotes because insurance fraud and magic parts unavailability (even though there's plenty of older cars around Europe still going and maintained). Can't really do that with new cars though with parking sensors and collision radars that are expensive to calibrate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I joined a green team in work to put forward ideas of being more eco friendly. EV chargers was mentioned as we don't have any, it was looked into last year but shelved as the idea of free charging would be 'unfair' for those with diesels paying €200 a month.

    I didn't mention it yet as this was just a brainstorming meeting but it's not about saving money. I pay €15/pm to drive ~1,200km so I don't care about free charging.

    I will be bringing several points up if anyone has any other suggestions that would be great.

    A lot of people at the company are commuting 100-150km, chargers are reassuring for those concerned about range particularly in Winter. They're also the biggest polluters given their distance. Remote working seems to be nonexist for most companies.

    New estates have to be multi unit developments so there's a lot more duplexes and apartments built that all have parking spaces. The likes of South Dublin County Council have a max 60% driveway rule in new estates so people like myself have parking spaces outside a house. There's also the issue with new estates being privately managed, the council have no obligation to take them over and the management companies might not want to engage in getting chargers installed as a lot of them are useless.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭creedp


    This is the problem, the more complex a car gets the shorter it's lifespan. Withan increasing number of people now insisting they wouldn't buy/drive a car without a pleothera of driver aids, the future will be even worse. Cars are becoming more like expensive consumable electronics as the years go buy, once they go wrong straight to the knackers yard with ye.



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