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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    www.warpnews.org/transportation/new-test-81-miles-increased-range-for-electric-cars/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    UFO Drive is a good one for rental if available in the location. I don't think there's any min and charging is all included. You pre-book for a block of kms and if over then per km.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    If it only needs to be 70% full then a charge anywhere within 100-150km of the airport would do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    thats still a pain in practical terms.

    With a petrol car you can fill it at any number of stations within a few km of the airport in a couple of minutes. You can pay for the fuel with your card or cash, to a human at a till. The only complication is for americans who arent used to pumping their own petrol!!

    With a rental EV, and you a tourist with no clue of the charging infrastructure or charging speeds or possible little to no experience of EVs (at this stage, probably the latter), and all the info you need hidden in a myriad of apps, which require data packages abroad (and for most tourists, you rent abroad) - its a headwrecker.

    I can very much imagine using the UFO model where they take the pain out of the charging procedure, but until the other companies cop themselves on I'll be renting only petrol or diesel from them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭wassie


    At least in the UK they have mandated that all public chargepoints should be capable of utlising ‘pay as you go’ debit or credit card payment option.

    We are only seeing Applegree roll this out at scale at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    I have witnessed a painful EV rental experience this year at Hertz Manchester. A colleague of mine arrived one day ahead so he was in charge of renting. I didn't know what he got but not little was the surprise when he pointed us to "my" car. A blue 2021 Tesla 3LR with only 9k miles. It turned out it was the only reasonable availability. Hertz staff didn't explain one little thing, there was a QR code on the dash but "who has the time". The car started popping errors and at some point it was lit as a xmas tree. Even the headlights were flashing. I kid you not. I have never seen a rental in such a bad shape, and I rented from some dodgy places in my life. Again the guy didn't want to sped a minute looking into this. For example we visited a business campus where I counted at least 40 AC chargers. He could have plugged in but no. I have no time for this. On the way back we charged at a BP close to the airport which turned out very slow. about 35kW which took us plenty of time. So the guy was not really impressed by the whole EV experience and swears "never ever".

    My own experience in Zurich was that they charged me a petrol tank just to see how clueless the desk staff were. They gave me a Leaf but didn't know what battery size.

    Ref Dublin airport there is Radisson with its chargers which should alleviate the charging issue. I got steady 60kW from the DC. If travel from afar one could plan to arrive earlier and have a bite to eat there instead of whatever it is served at the airport's food outlets (reluctant to call them restaurants). If only a top up needed, parking is free for 20 mins that about 20kWh or about 30% of battery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭wassie


    My days are generally full enough that I don't have that luxury. Any time buffer I have is goes towards allowing for traffic in trying to get to the airport. I'll be making sure I defo alway book an ICE everytime Im away.

    While the charging situation may be better in other countries, you've reminded me of all the times I've had to deal with numpties behind the counter. Hard enough dealing with a standard rental, so no need to complicate it further, especially when youve got a plane to catch and they know they have you by the short and curlies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭sk8board


    very Interesting technology - let’s see if/when it trickles down

    see the info in the post in the link below

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CtgXN6HNbzc/?igshid=YmM0MjE2YWMzOA==

    IMG_3726.jpeg





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It looks awesome but I do wonder realistically how much if it will ever filter down to the mass market

    Manufacturers have been able to produce super aerodynamic cars for decades (look at any racing series) but the best selling cars are still brick shaped SUVs made out of steel and aluminium

    I'm sure if anyone wanted to produce carbon fibre cars at scale they could, but it doesn't seem to scale on cost

    Hopefully things improve in the future, I remember Ford or GM were looking at composite materials (basically plastics or resins) for car bodies because they were lighter than steel. It might be something we see in future models

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Trabant, you've just become cool and trendy 💕💕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Toyota continue to be the embarrassing uncle. Fake engine noise is not new, but they’ve also developed a gear stick that does nothing and allows the car to pretend to stall if you fumble the controls. To preserve the driving experience.





  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Driving an EV reduces road rage and brings zen, according to Adrian Weckler anyway.

    Deliberately doing 85 in a 100 though, hopefully he pulls over when he picks up a ‘following’ on the 2 lane roads.

    https://m.independent.ie/business/technology/how-my-electric-car-made-me-a-mindful-motorist/a169716700.html

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    Wonder when it breaks, will you need a new "gearbox"?

    Trying to stay relevant, they need a rethink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,432 ✭✭✭markpb


    “In my VW electric car, if I drive to Belmullet, Co Mayo, from Dublin at the allowable speed limits, I’ll use around 90pc of my car’s battery. In cold weather, this goes up to at least 95pc.”

    I wish my car was only 5% less efficient in cold weather!

    He also claims the EV charging network is rubbish on Dublin - Belmullet but it has at least 2 x 150kW charge points, several 50kW charge points and there’s a 50kW and a 22kW in Belmullet itself. There’s even 4 x 3.5kW Tesla destination chargers if you’re really, really stuck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    To be fair that is fairly crap

    I'm in France at the moment and passed some random Total motorway service station outside Paris which had around 8-12 150kW Delta chargers

    The station across the motorway had another bunch of HPCs

    Despite that I've seen a fraction of the number of EVs here as in Ireland

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,226 ✭✭✭creedp


    I think the last point is very valid. Despite the constant negativity on here about how Ireland is promoting EVs or not being sufficiently harsh on ICE use, EV transition is gaining significant momentum here compared to other far larger car markets. The only downside is the number of oversized EVs like ID4s threading their way through urban settings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Don't insult my Bluey 😉

    To be fair, I've spotted a few and EVs are selling well enough in France, I just feel like they're probably selling well in cities and not suburbs (I'm outside Paris at the moment)

    I've seen a few Tesla's so far, a Citroen eC4 and I think I spotted an ID.4 and a C40 recharge

    Out of the probably couple of thousand cars I spotted yesterday, that's not the best statistics

    What boggles my mind is that this is despite electricity being dirt cheap in France and petrol being as expensive as Ireland from what I've seen. You'd think an EV would be an absolute no brainer here

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,043 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I don’t think the French like spending money on cars. And EVs are money.


    just saw the chargemap card works on Tesla super chargers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I've been in French cities and the amount of old cars is staggering, stuff we don't have any more. I know they have a car industry there but still.

    Old Renault with the numbering system they used to have are still a sight there, Renault 5, Renault 18, 11 etc...as well as pre 2000 Clios and Peugeot 205, 309 etc

    Great to see actually. They aren't everywhere but walk around a city and you'll see a few



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭wassie


    oversized EVs like ID4s

    LOL....the Tesla Model 3 has a bigger footprint (both in L & W) than both the ID4 & ID5 - would you consider that oversized given it takes up more room on the road and in parking spaces?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭Comer1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭wassie


    Really.

    M3: 4.70m x 2.09m

    ID4/ID5: 4.58/4.60m x 1.85m



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    You took the Model 3 dimensions with mirrors but ID.4 without 😜

    ID.4 is 2.108m with mirrors and Model 3 is 1.85m without mirrors

    Model 3 is longer though so it does actually have the bigger footprint

    ID.4 is surprisingly compact considering it's a CUV, pretty sure it'll fit into a Tiguan footprint

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭wassie


    I knew I'd get caught. Im a big fan of the ID4 - defo great for families.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    Think the problem is more the tank-sized range rovers and large SUV's rather than sedans and crossovers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I guess the best EVs for road space versus capacity are the ID Buzz and the Microlino

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,226 ✭✭✭creedp


    Yes I would, I only used the ID4 as an example. I much prefer the M3 to the MY and consider it a pity that Tesla didn't release a hatchback version of the M3 rather than the much larger MY. Listen I've no interest in SUVs but I've nothing against SUVs per se, but I think it unfortunate that both the car industry and Govt incentives are incentiviising the sale of larger EVs at the expense of smaller cars especially for urban settings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Yea, I think the ID.4 is about 2mm wider than the Model 3. (Mirrors folded)

    I was driving the missus's Ioniq 5 today and parallel parked in a tight spot. I was surprised it was easy, I think would have been trickier in my Model 3. Checked the length and the Ioniq 5 is 59mm shorter..



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