Teaching about Gender

Parents don’t get a veto on the content of the curriculum.

Come back to me when you’ve watched the documentary mentioned, or just listened to trans people speaking about their life experiences.

Lots of trans people know they are trans before they know anything about trans as a concept.

We already teach this is schools. Many schools have trans students. Some have trans staff. It's actually less of an issue than you think.

There's a fair amount of data available showing their are certainly differences at a biological level in people who identify as trans pre intervention so I'm certainly not uncomfortable teaching it as fact. But also if their weren't I'm not in the business of telling other people how they feel about themselves.

Like all education, the purpose of the curriculum is to prepare students for the world, for them to be productive and useful members of our society. Pretending trans people don't exist when they might be sitting beside one or being taught by one strikes me as ridiculous.

All this sadly reminds me of the gay panic, if teachers talk about being gay and are gay all the kids will be gay. Turns out that was not true so on to the next oppressed minority I suppose. None of those bigots thought they were bigoted at the time either.

Plenty of people are more then happy for their kids to learn about transgender people, along with everything else in the world.

Of course it will happen, teachers on this thread have said it is already happening.

Teaching is giving information to people, seems very strange to keep information from people, a strange censorship.

No need to go into any of that. Simply teaching that some people believe they have been born into the wrong body and can legally change gender at 18 is factually correct.

Teaching something doesn't force anyone to believe anything if they don't want to.

As for lying to kids? Lol! Santa anyone? Tooth fairy maybe? Everyone lies to their kids, constantly.

You may have a selective group of parents there or your own opinions are so extreme people are uncomfortable disagreeing with it in public. Most parents recognize the obviousness of the fact trans people exist and are actually great thankfully.

Again I know dozens of schools personally where this is taught currently. No real issues. Vapes are a curse though if you want to talk actual issues in schools. Are you involved in education?

Alao the science has been extensively discussed earlier in this thread. If you wish to discuss science the minimum entry to the discussion is one peer reviewed article with no obvious caveats in a decent journal backing your opinion. Otherwise you are not talking science either.

Perhaps you didn't read my post correctly....the reality is that some people believe they were born into the wrong body and they can legally change their gender. That's reality. Just because you don't like it, it's there, it's fact and it's reality.

No need to hide reality from the kiddos, they get enough lies from parents.

If im trasnphobic you are idiotic and that's proven in every post you've made so far. You ask for evidence of desistance I provide it and you say I cherry picked the study.

I'm sure as hell not going to listen to someone who has no knowledge of basic child psychology and safeguarding. You asked for evidence of social contagion with trans children 21% of Gen Z in te US now identify as LGBT if that percentage increases at the same rate as it has in the past 4 generations we won't have to worry about climate change because we will literally all be LGBT and the human race will become extinct. The absolut nonsense that is be bandied about here as fact is beyond ridiculous a 6 year old came out as non binary?? Pull the other one had the family a vegan dog too? Or a two spirit cat?

I asked the question is a girl who plays football trans because in her Ted talk susie green the head of Mermaids said that her biological son always liked playing with dolls and dresses as a child and used this as an indicator he was trans... do I beleive girls who play football are trans no I don't what an idiotic suggestion I coach camogie and girls football I have daughters. I'm not a clueless ideologue who has two trans friends.

I gave you a long term study on desistance and all you have countered nothing other than to say that's transphobic. Science is transphobic is it?? You've proven nothing other than how entrenched you are and how everything you disagree with is transphobic.

If you had a child of your own you would be aware of the insanity of teaching irrelevant unproven ideological nonsense to them. The gender unicorn is taught in the US and in schools in the UK. Why is it a gender unicorn? Who is that suppose to appeal to would you say? Would it be the huge numbers of girls transitioning in the past decade? And this is the issue if teaching about trans people meant you mention in passing about transpeople existing then sure I'd have no problem with that but teaching children that their gender may not align with their sex observed at birth is an ideological viewpoint its not fact and shouldn't be taught to children.

Again - the first point is settled, the second isn't challenged.

So, if, according to you, I've no frame of reference because I don't have a kid (despite having WAY more experience with actual, real transpeople than you - funny how that's not important....) - why are you arguing with me?

What do you think you're going to learn from me that's going to improve your understanding of the issue? Nothing? Then why you even doing it in the first place, if not to learn something new?