Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Purely because of cf wanting to have a monopoly on the UK market, they lobbied (payed off the right people) done "trials" showing how harmful urea was versus can, and now they are likely to mothball their operations their its farcical

Bit of a simplistic assessment - its not as if the current government r inspiring on all fronts so there will be plenty of votes up for grabs next election

I guess it depends on your circumstances - if i was young(20s/early 30s) and starting out in this country , there might be jobs, but not much good if the cost of housing, heating, etc. is out of reach. Things were bad in the 80's but the average teacher and guard could still get accommodation in Dublin. Now there r shortages of teachers, retail workers etc. around most big towns and cities cos the cost of living is driving them to emigrate again:(. Also this governments policy of relieing on vulture funds,speculators and developers to delver basic public services has become an expensive mess in terms of housing, energy, waste services etc. EG. Developers in Dublin alone r sitting on 40k building permissions while spinning BS about wanting looser regs on planning, fire safety, waste water etc. while this government has allowed those responsible for the Mica disaster etc. that is set to cost the taxpayers billions of euros to walk away scot free!!

Population has increased by a million in 10 years, the first 5 of those we were still recovering from recession.

Pre crash there was a large proportion went away for the year after education but would come back, post crash they went away still but stayed away for longer leading to skills shortages

Same problems are in alot of countries, but not all have had a the same population increase.

Same problems as always here, things are built for now or even 10 years previous when plans were first made and not for 10/ 20/30 years time. CUH was redeveloped too small, dunkettle was designed too small, even now is it one of councils in the counties around Dublin only allowing for a small amount of new builds as it's not in their development plans. In the meantime serial objectors and all those who want to stick their hand in the pie make it nigh on impossible to do things right

Too much talk and not enough doing

It would be good to see Lombard get in. He would be a speaker for agriculture

I agree. There is a lot of things changed in the past twenty years. I know there are tough cases and they need government help and they should be helped. BUT. Listening to a lot of phone in radio shows, why does the presenter not ask " where is the dad?" There are lots of people out there not taking responsibility for there choice to have children. Should the family not be the first port of call before the state. I know I would put up my family if they found themselves homeless. Even convert the sitting room for a while.

Secondly was the reason that the state let the people buy their council house was because of the cost of up keep. I knew a lad who would ring the council to get them to change the light bulbs in his house.

I agree with u about those types expecting others to fund their own lifestyle choices in terms of having children in the absence of any resources to rear them.

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/dairy-advice/gillian-osullivan-why-we-are-switching-to-foliar-nitrogen-application-42421216.html

Just ordered enough maize meal for the next 2 weeks. That's it then hopefully. At this stage it's just trying to keep the condition on the cows and holding milk yields.