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Kellie Harrington. Was she hung out to dry or did she hang herself out to dry?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    It's been said a million times why it was most definitely not off topic. I'm happy spar kept her on though. I wouldn't like her to lose her deal for being a bit thick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Ironically getting replies of what a disgrace he is and that he should resign. From people that are actually transphobic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Ken Early along with his colleagues resigned from Newstalk. For 10 years they have had their own very successful podcast.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,324 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Did she come across as someone who was there to talk about anything other than sports and sport in the community.

    That's why the guy landed it on her on a sports show for clicks and attention and has now got himself in the grinder trying to delete his own past post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    She was there to also talk about diversity in the community , it was a relevant question and I've probably never seen such a dumb response to a question. Yeah it's funny enough he's got himself in a bit of heat haha.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Most of this heat appears to be coming from people who are too afraid to use their name on twitter due to the state of their own timelines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    "I switched off when I heard diversity being mentioned" (paraphrase). Topic of discussion, sports teams and other community initiatives. She doesn't appear to have wanted to answer questions on anything if she switches off at the word diversity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    She's there to be the face of a company to sell their cabbage and tea. She's not there to be a professor pontificating on diversity and culture and immigration. That's beyond her. That's what she means by that, not that she's saying no to diversity. She's switching off because it's beyond her. She's allowed to know her limits. Her expression is boxing. That's doesn't make her a bad person or thick or anything else that people are throwing at her. The life she is living is diverse and community driven...Is she perfect and to everyone's liking? I'm sure she's not.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    If you are going to put yourself forward as some "ambassador for the community" then you are going to be called out if there are contradictions to that. It would happen to anyone in the public eye and there's no reason why KH should get a free pass.

    The issue is that nobody really knows what she thinks one way or the other, her responses/actions have been less than clear and in the vacuum everyone is making their own judgement. All completely avoidable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Mod Edit

    Warning issued.

    Post edited by ShamoBuc on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Should be noted too that there was very little controversy around the original tweets in October. It was Kellie's evasiveness this week that landed her in hot water. She may have been caught on the hop slightly and not realised that refusing point blank to answer the questions might be a bad look. Virtually any answer at all would have been better than saying 'move on' and 'I have nothing to say'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Best post yet , Kellie strikes me as a real genuine type but she’s not a sophisticated person who earns her living talking, hers wasn’t the kind of Performative wokery we saw from Shane Hannon yesterday evening on Twitter where he sought public forgiveness for sins against progressive decency ten years ago when he used unflattering terms to describe certain people

    Kellie doesn’t do that kind of phoney piousness and we love her more for it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭high_tower


    Kelly was right not to comment further. If she wasn’t prepped for it anything she said would have been twisted. She shouldn’t have apologised though

    when did off the ball become about geo politics ? Will we have klaus shwaub on the panel next week ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    No harm apologising if she tweeted something that she didn't fully understand and which subsequently caused people to question her own views.

    I would think an apology and stating that's not your personal view etc is standard practice if you get misconstrued, regardless of who you are.

    If it is her view then I agree she shouldn't apologise. Stand by your views, explain them if you want or not. Up to the individual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Robert Nairac


    The sanctimonious fella conducting the interview has now been outed as a vicious bigot and for using dehumanising language towards disabled people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    When he was 16, almost a decade and a half ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,098 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    So just so I have it right, we have two main posters who are furious she insulted all immigrants.

    They can't point out where in the tweet she used racist language.

    One of them opened a thread yesterday giving out that people weren't protesting a pedophile being jailed.

    The other has been referring to all people from the East wall as knackers and scumbags etc based on a small minority of people who protested.

    Before this so called journalist who has a past of insulting transvestites and disabled people, very people would have known about the tweet.

    Now we have an Irish hero and role model to young kids being attacked publicly and making everyone aware of the tweet.

    She could have lost sponsorship and been fincinacially and publicly ruined.

    Yet people are happy to see this happen as some sort of punishment for a tweet months ago that was deleted.

    These are the same people who go around telling people to be kind but are the same people who love ruining other people's lives at any opportunity.

    She is a national hero and let's hope this dies down and that journalist is further exposed for his hypocrisy and maybe he might be the one that suffers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    My €0.02

    This happened 5 months ago, and the tweet was deleted in minutes

    The comment was:

    "Very, very sad. A powerful message from Eva Vlaardingerbroek. Our own leaders need to take a listen to this. She believes this is the 12th girl in France this year who has been killed by an immigrant.. And that’s just France."

    In reference to a migrant that murdered a girl. Eva Vlaardingerbroek (whos a bit nutz and believes in the "great reset")

    There are ALOT of women out there that fear violence from men, there is on average in Ireland 6 women violently murdered by men each year, and countless more suffer abuse.

    So statements that come from the right wing like "If you think that's bad, wait til you see what these migrants do" are really compounded to the ordinary Joe soap. In Kelly's defense, she did not know who Eva Vlaardingerbroek was when she tweeted that. She's a victim of right wing radicalization PR stunt, that's all. Shane Hannon being in the media industry would have known this, so it baffles me why he even asked the question.

    Finally, there is NO WAY Shane Hannon would have asked that question if it was a man he was interviewing. Women are easy prey to pick apart ya see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Being good at punching people should mean you're above criticism?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,098 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    What did she do that you believe deserves Being potentially publicly and financially ruined?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭hynesie08




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,098 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    What do you think she should be criticised for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    Finally, there is NO WAY Shane Hannon would have asked that question if it was a man he was interviewing. Women are easy prey to pick apart ya see.

    You were making some sense until you go to this part. There's absolutely no foundation to this, along with this idea that she was somehow targeted because she has a working class accent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Acting like a petulant child when asked a fair question relating to something that she was promoting, it came across as small time and unprepared.


    Why do you think Shane hannon should be publicly and financially ruined?

    She is a national hero and let's hope this dies down and that journalist is further exposed for his hypocrisy and maybe he might be the one that suffers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,098 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    I never said he should be financially ruined.

    He set out to make a show of her while having opportunities in the past with men and avoided it.

    I hope he suffers publicly for being a hypocrite considering his past tweets.

    He might have done a bit of preparation and deleted those tweets before going after someone else for past tweets.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44



    I really don't need their support or lack of to have an opinion on an issue. I think you might find that most people are not a hive mind on all matters.

    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭NattyO


    The sin Kellie committed that has so many luvvies on Twitter (and here) so worked up is that she exposed a fact.

    It is a fact that the little girl (who is conveniently never mentioned in these attacks) was raped, mutilated, and murdered by migrants.

    Progressives, or whatever they call themselves, hate facts. Their whole world view is based on a denial of facts.

    Like JK Rowling, with her crazy assertion that women are women, Kellie dared to share a fact that didn't suit the woke agenda.

    People (especially women for some reason) who state anti-woke facts must not only be berated, but, if possible, must be destroyed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44


    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    I don't see this as a migrant issue.

    I don't see this as a woke issue.

    I don't see this as a racism issue.

    I don't see it as an academic discussion of beliefs.

    This is simply an issue of people's rights in interviews and the ethics of interviewing someone about their status as a role model. The problem was someone bringing a political narrative into a sporting arena with a person who has no interest in such and is not equipped to do so. Spar want a famous role model to push their brand and business - like any business they attach themselves to buzz words like diversity and community without a thought for how a journalist might angle that to generate controversy and views.

    Anybody bringing anything else to the table in terms of political issues outside of the interview, issues with the woke or far-right, is muddying the waters of that issue with their own concerns, political concerns, with migrancy, wokeism, the far right, nationalism, and geo politics.

    Shane Hannon opened that tin of worms. Kellie thought she could close it. But everyone else is exploding the whole tin with their political concerns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The nationality of the individuals who murdered that girl is scarcely relevant to anything. As a former major colonial power, France is one of the most multicultural countries in Europe. It stands to reason that with a population of 66m, some horrible and awful crimes will be carried out by non nationals in any given year.

    Right wing news sources like GB News trying to turn this into a 'migrant' issue adds nothing to the story.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    I don't believe she was targeted as such, but it was definitely fishing exercise by Eva (And her team), Harrington was the unfortunate that was caught out by it. Shane would have know this, he's in the news/media business, so again, why did he ask the question if he knows it's stunt?

    Sorry to break this to ya, but journalists asking Women questions that they wouldn't ask Men is actually a thing. I get #CoverTheAthlete was 7 years ago and Irish people forget, but it's still going on today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭NattyO


    I'd imagine the "nationality" of those murderers is very relevant to the parents of Lola Daviet, as the little girl would still be alive if they had stayed in their own country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    It stands to reason that with a population of 66m, some horrible and awful crimes will be carried out by non nationals in any given year.

    The vast majority of the disgusting crimes that have happened in France in the last 10 years or so have largely been committed by the "new French". This case, the beheading a few years ago, the Irish man who was stabbed to death for his views, and all of the terrorism that's killed hundreds of people, have been committed by non natives. You're quickly becoming one of the worst posters on this site for twisting truths, constantly downplaying the results of an ideology that you care so deeply about. People like yourself are far more impassioned about the likes of Kelly, than the absolute filth who commit these acts, and that says so much about you all.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭crusd


    All she needed to say was "i reacted to a sad story and once I realised that this poor girls murder was being used to drive an agenda I deleted the tweet. We should all do a bit more to make sure that we are not being led astray by radical agendas which take advantage of sad situations"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭crusd


    How many murders of girls from outside the UK where the murderer was not from an immigrant background do GB news report on?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    She didn't know that question was coming, normally prior to an interview it's discussed "what will be discussed". Clearly this was not discussed. That was dropped on her and she didn't know what to say as she wasn't expecting it as it was 5 months ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭crusd


    Heard Joe Molloy on the other evening say that OTB never flag questions up front



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    That could very be true given the that it's a sports type show/piece where the focus is supposed to be on sports/athletes. So again, though if its a sport type why is he asking questions about a minor non-sport related mistake that happened 5 months ago? You may think it's grand and I respect your opinion, but I don't. To me it seems like he wanted "his name in the papers".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    It’s impressive how people keep pretending not to understand that it wasn’t simply a sport show about sport, and only sport.

    She was on the programme in her capacity as an ambassador for Spar’s community drive promotion, which they also discussed.

    If you think Kellie Harrington should only ever talk about sport then surely anyone would agree, then, that she should not take up community ambassador roles with Spar or other companies?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    She was not prepared for the question and had not been told that this topic would have been discussed.

    I Follow Kellie and didn't even know about it until I saw this break the other night.

    In the circumstances she was right to just avoid the question.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Acosta


    I was shocked she didn't have a simple two liner like that ready to word off if she ever needed to during an interview. It was fairly naive think it would never come up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Acosta



    https://twitter.com/Storm1Captain/status/1641393275406778370?t=T1_NE7FzkBYboyaQPRnysA&s=19


    Hannon is transphobic apparently..Has this character looked at his own twitter profile lately? These people are nuts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,874 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Do you honestly believe if she was a Middle class UCD orts girl background that the broader left would have jumped as hard on her.


    We both know her accent and background were blood in the water for these sharks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,674 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Do you know? What's your evidence?

    She was being hypocritical, she was called out on it, who gives a shyt if she's from Marino or Mars.

    'Be like Elsa and let it go!'

    Sorry now Kellie like, don't piss down me back and tell me its raining.

    She's been in receipt of the €40,000 boxing HP grant, a chunk of taxpayers money, so she can damn well take some responsibility for her actions and stop quoting Disney movies like she's touched or something.

    The same €40k grant that posh girl Anneliese Murphy was on when she was still active in HP sailing. So you can leave that nonsense at the door too.



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    Most of us would f** up if interviewed without media training and courses in diversity and unconscious bias , her handlers obviously have been found lacking



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Is this genuinely the first time she's been asked about that tweet since she posted it?

    I know she's been on other things since then. It's surprising, or maybe not, that no other media outlet had the balls to ask her about it until now. Even if they went the "safe" route and informed her and her team they were going to ask it beforehand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    She's a Nurse so defo went to college. <<< wrong

    I'd agree with you though people need to take responsibility for their actions, but I don't feel she was given the proper chance. It was just jumped on her.

    There isn't a person on here who hasn't done, said or thought something seriously stupid when they were younger. The Problem in today's society is that any oul sh*t stirrer can go back through a persons tweets and dig up some post from 10+ years ago and go Well, what do you have to say about this tweet you posted in 2012 about X.

    I know there are people here who feel that those ancient tweets are still relevant today, but to me that whole practice is complete and utter horsesh*t.

    Even worse are those that screenshot before a tweet is deleted #keepthatoneforlater



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,647 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    She's a Nurse so defo went to college.

    I have no idea why this is relevant, but she absolutely, 100%, is not a nurse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    My Apologies, you are correct, She worked at St Vincent's doing non medical stuff



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44



    Is there a guide to the mindless left wing, politically correct, sanitised, NGO friendly opinions you are expected to have when you receive a grant?

    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



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