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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,105 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    yes 13k for a sub date, 10.5k retail is plenty for one.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,354 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Rolex are extremely conservative with their design and brand, mainly because their market and buyers are and anything that deviates too far from the norm of "it looks like a Rolex" tends not to sell too well. A slight colour shift, a slightly different material or more/less text on the dial is about your lot and gets their market's attention and sales. This has stood Rolex very well over the years, so they'd be kinda mad to change that. Now they did bring out a lefty crown on the wrong side, but it still passed the "it looks like a Rolex"(and isn't a great seller), so I'd not expect anything too wacky or different from them.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    @Wibbs I'm one of those old farts that likes the design classics.

    Everything these days that is aimed towards broadening customer bases or targeting new global markets generally turns me off. It's always more bling, more shiny or one of those awful meteorite dials, the watch equivalent of the modern BMW grill.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,354 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'm more the pure utility or Modernist designs from the times before the Future(tm) stopped being a thing and Modernism became a dirty word. The Rolex Sub is certainly a design classic, like the Fender Stratocaster, though the latter was extremely Modernist when it first came out in the 1950's(and took a while to gain traction). The Sub was more of an evolution of their Explorer*. Of the original first diving watches(with a bezel) for me anyway the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms was the most Modernist and most innovative. Omega, Longines and Rolex's offerings were more like playing catchup**. Pity their later offerings look a tad too "bling", but meh bling.

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    *IMHO the Explorer(along with the datejust) is the Rolex, the OG, genesis. All their other sports models are essentially the Explorer with add ons, and that's how they evolved too. Sub, Explorer with bezel(and the Sub was a rebranded Turn-o-Graph, itself an Explorer with a bezel), GMT, Explorer with bezel and extra hand, the modern Milgauss, Explorer with "funky" hands and class, AirKing, Explorer with different text on the dial. The Daytona is about the only outlier and that's more to do with function and movement.

    ** what's mad is Longines invented the external rotating bezel but for pilots and never thought of applying it to dive watches. Rolex had the Turn-O-Graph and their waterproof Oyster case, a Sub by any other name and again never thought of making that extra leap. They very rarely even mentioned swimming with thier watches in their adverts(even the first ad campaign for the Oyster featuring the woman who swam the English Channel, she wore it around her neck, not on her wrist). I suppose it was timing too. While military scuba diving was certainly a thing from WW2(and both Longines and Rolex provided watches/movements for that), civillian sport diving had only really started to take off, just as Blancpain brought out their Fifty Fathoms.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    I'm in a bit of a watch lull at the moment

    Feeling the same myself .I’m eager to buy but nothing is hitting the spot at the moment.I’d still love a Pepsi but even at €18-19k I think they are overpriced.I was trying to trade a couple of watches towards the yachtmaster on adverts but usual story of seller charging high and offering low for mine.

    last watch I got excited for was the skydweller that @unkel bet me to but when I found it was available again the mood had gone of me.He probably saved me a mistake. The new Weirs Rolex boutique / display area is due to open at end of next month and there’s lots of promises of what will be available so I’ll wait till then and hopefully get something.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,105 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    I think both of you would have regretted the sky dweller if I'm honest so probably for the best!

    I get you re the gmt, which is a watch I really like and I could buy one tmrw but a) I don't think buying it at today's grey prices will look like a smart move in 12 months time and b) it's basically the same as the 3 black bezel gmts I owned over the past 5 years, the first one of which cost me around 1/3 of what a Pepsi goes for!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    I think the Pepsi is unique though. It owns those colours despite many other watches using them . The Pepsi on jubilee has bags of history compared to the black bezel or blue / black .

    Who knows re pricing though. Definitely not a €18k watch but will they be more or less in years time is anyone’s guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,748 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Same here lads. I think I dodged a bullet with the blue skydweller. And I simply can't think of a suitable replacement for the JC. I have a 46mm Breitling Superocean 2 heritage (wearing it now) which I like, but it's a tad on the conservative side

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Did you sell the JC or was that going in trade to the sky dweller? What’s got you keen to change?


    I must be in the minority, have no intentions of selling anything, and probably not buying anything for 12/18 months. Have a desire for a gold Daytona on oyster flex 😬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,269 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Rolex have a new gmt master coming apparently

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    The internet isn’t for everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,748 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Was going to trade it in. Dunno, just want a change of scene, had the JC since 2020, that's extremely long for me 😂 Very hard to replace it with anything though, must be blue, must be big, must be class. Suggestions welcome though 😁

    I know of a gold Yachtmaster for sale on oyster flex if you are interested

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Considered yacht masters before, but I think at this point it would be too similar to what I have, and I’m missing a chronograph!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,748 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Daytona is very small (38mm in reality) and wears even smaller. Do try one out before you buy! I find Dawson's very good for this. Sales people very knowledgeable, always friendly and patient, never any pressure to buy.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,105 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    The post must have been cathartic I have a sd43 arriving early next week 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,748 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    That's class, you'll like that. Sub on steroids and not overly big. I take it you didn't have one before?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,283 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Great choice - I found the SubC was just a tiny bit too small for me, so the SD43 is a nice size.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    You are forgetting they massively over price all their watches, and sell frankenwatches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,748 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Aye, you pay top dollar for their retail presence, reputation and service. Wouldn't be in a hurry to buy a watch there myself. But it's great they are there all the same. Sold a Rolex last year and the buyer insisted to have the watch verified. Which they did, for less than one thousandth of the value of the watch.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,105 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    No have had maybe 3 subs and 2 gmts and a yachmaster and a few explorer 2s but never a sd43



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭scwazrh


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    I wonder how long he was on the list for it ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,269 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    never worn but it is on his wrist in the photo

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Johnny1980


    Half of these Rolex ads are fraudulent. It has turned sceptic now unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,105 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    You would want to be careful buying or selling an expensive watch on adverts far too many new accounts, kettle lords and used car and or caravan dealers involved



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Johnny1980


    Ye for sure . They are also working in tandem with each other too . I would not buy anything of them to be honest .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,269 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Fiancé likes the fact it’s smaller as she can borrow it!! Yea haven’t tried one on yet, but not planning anything for 12 - 18 months, or so I tell myself!! Perhaps we will see a new size Daytona announced this week 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,269 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


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    I like the gmt master 2

    but that op is just weird imo

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,105 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,269 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    The internet isn’t for everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,638 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    After looking at photos side by side of the panda on TRF I have concluded they are the same watch. Again.



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