Why wont die hard GAA fans admit football these days is muck?

What ridiculous unworkable new rules would they be, Dog?

Stuff like this from page 1 of the thread.

"Bring in a half pitch rule like basketballs half court rule, once you bring the ball over the half it can’t go back over or you forfeit possession.

Must keep a minimum of 3 players in your own and the the opposition half at all times."

city won 5 out of the last 6 PLs similar to Dublin dominating Sam recently, albeit on a downward trajectory now. Hurling has Limerick as the team to beat, hopefully Kk Tipp Gal et al can knock them off their perch, but hurling is streets ahead of gaelic football rugby and soccer, its not even a debate.

Hand passing has ruined the game,

Stopped watching 10 years ago won't be going back

Does that quote not say the exact opposite to what you're suggesting?

As in the materials have not changed.

I also find it very strange that so many people dont see a problem with hand passing. For me its the elephant in the room...and same in hurling.

4 LOI games on Friday night and 3 goals scored in total.

Anyone there who prefers it to Gaelic Football tell is what is so good about it?!

I am a big LOI fan as well. It's a pity that you have to describe GAA football as muck, and insult the fans. Your life would be richer if you could enjoy both.

Yes, and some people cannot see the elephant in the room.

"not everyone behind the ball like most Gaelic football games these days"

Now I know for definite you are a complete and utter troll.

What game do you actually think the mass defense and patient, possession-based game tactics are imported from then????

Go on, lie your way out of this one at your peril.

This thread should have been entitled "Pubtalk". The low-level of thinking and laughably hare-brained 'solutions' would make even the local pot-bellied bullshitters blush.

The players are not going to go back to the old style. So a player in possession is likely to have a couple of forwards and a couple of defenders from the opposition in close attendance, as well as colleagues from their own team. What is the advantage or why is it so necessary to make them kick the ball a few yards, instead of handpassing it? They might not even have room to swing a leg.

If they choose to handpass in more open play, then that is what they want to do, and they rejected the no more than three handpasses experiment. As a means of propelling a football from one player to another, it is a perfectly logical thing to do. The old way went out a long time ago, and it is only the diehard stick in the muds who think it was some sort of golden era.

Rule Changes I’d like to see in football that I reckon would improve it.

• Once the ball crosses your own 45, and then crosses the opposition 45, the ball cannot go backwards past those lines. Going backwards results in a free to the opposition.
• No substitutions after the 30/35 minute mark in a half (if you're not needing them before then, you don't need them at all).
• 4 players designated as forward only. They cannot play the ball in their own half of the field. These players will be marked out differently from other team-mates by wearing armbands of a different colour from the team’s jersey colours.
• No fisted points.
• The ball can be picked off the ground
• 4 steps allowed after a bounce, 6 steps allowed after a toe- tap to speed up forward running.
• Amend the blood sub rule. All players lying down on the ground have to leave the field for 60 seconds (the time starts when the player crosses the sideline). Either it’s a genuine injury that needs treatment by which after 60 seconds the blood sub comes on for 3 minutes max before a permanent substitution has to take place, or the player lying down feigning injury is off the field for 60 seconds and has to wait until the ball goes out of play to return. It ensures that players with genuine injuries get safe treatment off the field, and players that are feigning injury are removed form play for a minimum 60 seconds.
• A player has to leave the field strictly before a sub comes on, and from a designated point on the side-line.
• All timing/substitutions to be administered by the 4th official, the on-field referee has no role in them.
• All kickouts have to go past the 45.
• At the throw in’s, all players bar the four midfielders have to be behind the 45 metre lines.

It won't happen by people coming on the internet calling the game muck telling people they are cavemen. Just because you have an obsession with the handpass. If you are not already a member, join a club. Explain to the players about how they are doing it all wrong. Get the club to persuade the County delegate to Congress to propose your ideas. It does need a two thirds majority, but anything sensible like making 8 players wear armbands is bound to go through.

Excellent post and very well put , I have to say.

However the real issue here is do we have to accept that without considering how the game is presented

and how entertaining and exciting the watch is.

Are there no improvements which can be made, no tweeks to improve watch ability?

On a recent tv game I counted 47 hand passes in a passage of play without the opposition touching the ball!

Not good viewing could I be so bold to suggest!

End result a free for the opposition!

That shows a massive commitment by the defence. The fitness of the players to be able to execute that is admirable. When that style of play emerged, it was the thing that struck me the most. In the old style most of the players, and certainly the goalkeepers, would be standing around watching the play. Now they have to be involved all over the pitch, often leaving one half of the field nearly deserted.

Uhmm… not really… most of the hand passes were amongst themselves in their own ,say, two thirds of the field.

defense not interested till the ball reached around their 35 metre line .

Just held their spots and shuffled around as the ‘play ‘ went from side to side and backwards.

Shure there you are…..