Cycling Mikey

Do you want to offer anything else other that weak response? Why do you think motorists are such an angry, aggressive bunch of people - which they must be applying your logic.

Whatever about the rest of it, his own videos show him standing in the hedge at that Gandalf corner (I think that's the name anyway), and then stepping out when he sees an infraction he wants to record.

It might be commuting, but it'd be the strangest commuting I ever saw

Like I said, it might be commuting, but it's the oddest form I've ever seen. As I said way back at the start of this thread, if he's happy, grand. Personally I can think of many, many better things to do with my spare time.

It happens at every junction by both cars and bikes and to be honest is probably more common with bikes albeit the potential for incident is usually far lower.

It's one thing I never do and thought most normal cyclists were the same until out on another clubs club spin and I was surprised to see the number that didn't even slow for a red light never mind stop.

Interesting test pool here though to get an idea of how divisive these social media personalities are.

I wouldn't mind she ended up going straight on in the end. 🙈

True, I generally tend to look at it that there's enough reasons for motorists to hate cyclists so why give them another. I do understand the argument for risks being entirely different in certain scenarios. I also know the annoyance of coming up to a pedestrian crossing and watching a pedestrian press the button to cross then just walk out leaving cars to sit at a red light 30s after they've left. I guess my point it's annoying but I wouldn't go through it in a car so I wouldn't go through it on a bike.

That's true. I was merely expressing an opinion. If he is stopping on his commute to hide in a ditch, I could find better things to do with the time it takes to do that. Also, in the video I posted above, he doesn't just video the driver and then submit the footage, he continues to follow her to tell her what he's going to do.Can't seethe point of this, other than the hope of a confrontation which will (presumably) drive views/numbers/traffic on his youtube channel

@iwillhtfu I questioned the suggestion "cycling mikey is making London streets safer" by asking for some empirical evidence of this. None was forthcoming. The number of prosecutions was offered, but no stats regarding a reduction in crashes, injuries, deaths etc.

Bizarre in what sense it's pretty self explanatory only this time it can't be described as motorist rhetoric as I probably cycle more than I drive these days.

Also you have taken what I have said out of context and applied it to the Cycling Mikey video which indeed is bizarre.

Anyway I think I'm moving on from this thread and to be honest it has actually been irritating and more annoyingly has me siding with the view of some motorists.

An apt meme for all and sundry 😂

Your problem here is trying to apply logic to emotion. That's a battle you won't win. It's a fact that a lot of motorists hate cyclists. It's probably fair to say that in most cases that hatred is completely illogical. However what I think @iwillhtfu (he can correct me if I'm wrong!) was saying is that if you have a large body of motorists with an irrational dislike of cyclists, who will happily overlook the car in front of them who just ploughed through the red light, then me as a cyclist rolling up to the lights and pedalling through just because there was no traffic approaching will to them simply serve as proof that cyclists are a bunch of law breaking c***s... "look!!!! see!!! another one!!! every single time they just cycle through the red lights!!!".

I see myself as traffic so for the most part I obey the laws applying to traffic the same way I do when driving... it would be a bit rich of me to bang on about law-breaking motorists while doing the exact same thing myself. Yes, the potential harm is vastly different, and yes, the laws should be changed to take account of this (allow left on red etc) which I think would take much of the heat out of the issue. But for the time being I don't feel like I can in good conscience pick and choose which fundamental ROTR I'm going to obey and which I expect motorists to obey.

The one outside Leinster House changes immediately IIRC.

Yes, some cyclists break red lights, some motorists do (actually, more motorists do), but I think the ramifications of the latter are much more serious. I doubt if anyone has been killed by a cyclist breaking the lights.

Come on now lads , cyclist are notorious for breaking red lights .I seem to expect this forum to be mostly frequented by racing cyclists but I guess there are plenty of ‘Green Party cyclists’ too.Dont appreciate the cyber stalking /commenting on my posts elsewhere either .A triple mod rounding upon , sheesh !

Now that IS an old argument which I wouldn’t subscribe to .Not sure if you’re being serious or in jest .But that seems to be common lately .

9. Event entry requests/offersDo not start any requests in the main forum requesting or offering entries for events such as the WW200, ROK, SKT etc. Do a search in the Cycling Adverts sub-forum. If no thread has alkready been started for a particular event in a particular year you may start one. A single thread should be used for all requests and offers for each event, with priority being given to the earliest poster who is seeking an entry

A ‘Green Party cyclist ‘ will use bike paths , a ‘real’ one will be happy dicing with the traffic down the Quays etc .Maybe (with so many mods around ?) its time to discuss whether cycling as a sport or form of transport belong in the same forum ? Cargo bikes( very Green Party!) and Colnago’s have as much in common as Nissan Leafs and formula 1 cars surely ? Anyway that Mikey fella is the very antithesis of sporting cyclists ( apart from maybe one or two commissaires?)

The "No true Scotsman" has to be one of my favourite fallacies...