N25 - Midleton to Youghal [planning and design to commence 2023]

Yeah I think Lakeview just needs to be dealt with. Because any work near Midleton that doesn't deal with Lakeview is going to make any Lakeview upgrade far more difficult and the intervening period far more painful.

Maybe two projects simultaneously: would that be too difficult to achieve? One to effectively move Lakeview junction East and another to deal with the N25 proper? Lakeview stands on its own two feet as a project because it splits the town in two at this stage.

I for one am glad that, after 17 years, I no longer have to drive this horrific road.

Waterford City to Youghal is manageable compared to the stretch that is Youghal to the west of Lakeview. Something really needs to be done but I can't see it happening for another 17 years.

Why the entire system cannot be accelerated is beyond me. Is it simply the fact that our judiciary is too small and still based on practises from the 1920s that keeps all progress back when it comes to planning issues? Could we appoint a hell of a lot more judges to the benches to get things moving?

If only we had a few more years to have let Transport21 do its thing. We'd have had that motorway Atlantic Corridor by now..

Yes Carrigtohill to Loughaderra/Ballintotis would make perfect sense to me.

My problem with the previous scheme was that it didn't deal with much other than Oatencake, and Oatencake itself is only an issue because of Council antics. They allowed extensive development on the relief road and even built a school right on the junction in the last few years! So I don't see why TII should bankroll another opportunity for them to create more of the same a few km further West.

So a new "interchange to empty fields" at Adamstown was the straw that broke the camel's back for me! Complete with convenient "new scenic S-shaped road" through the fields. If they want to develop a new town with the population of Westport on a national road It's about time they put in a master plan for it. And not pretend it's all an effort to make people on the road safer, when they themselves have consistently undermined that safety. That project was almost like some kind of gaslighting to me!

Exactly, it doesn't have to even be a N25 upgrade, it can simply be a bypass/relief road around the town. A bypass that would probably be even shorter than the current route.

They don't want to invest in rail to Youghal from Cork (which is another discussion entirely) but atleast make the road network fit for purpose.

We can't blame James O'Connor, he's doing his best. But with so many Cork TD's in the government you'd think something can be done.

Because traffic levels don't justify a motorway between Cork and Waterford. There is no conspiracy here.

Tuam is the tail end of a planned motoway all the way from Cork.. it's not built because of traffic between Galway and Tuam. The Southern bit of that is going to be built.

There's no justification at all for motorway on any part of N25 between Midleton and Waterford. I drive that road all the time, it doesn't need more capacity, just a couple of bottlenecks to be removed..

Cork has the second highest population of any county in the state, so guess what: there are lots of cars registered there. Whatever you're reading into that, you're going to have to explain it a bit better, because I can't see a point there...

With the N/M20, there will be dual carriageway between the three largest cities outside of Dublin, not sure what point you are trying to make what that has to do with motorway between Cork and Waterford.

And your example of motorway between Galway and Tuam goes against your Dublin looks after Dublin thing. Bizarre post.

The only bizarre thing here is the justificatin of building a motorway between Galway and Tuam and not having even a dual carrigeway between Cork/Limerick/Waterford - that's bizarre - but then the politicians who are/were from that area speak the loudest.

You tried to justify not building a motorway due to lack of traffic - how much traffic goes between Galway and Tuam - ?

East of Midleton on the N25 its 16,700 per weekday. Higher than on any stretch of the Gort to Tuam motorway. Even taking your numbers, I'm not sure its a good argument against the dualing of the N25 to Youghal to say that it currently has almost identical traffic volumes as a current motorway.

Great website by the way, I've never seen it before, the numbers there highlight how utterly mad it would be to build the M24 ahead of the M20.