The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

After giving up so many picks to get Wilson, now these ... where will Denver get better players from?

Payton will have to work wonders with what he has?

Yeah, that's a strong possibility.

And as this is a banter thread, I'll add Pete Carroll could probably win a game with Josh Johnson as QB :)

Tis the season

Or else it'll be like the Patriots and we realise the HOF QB had an awful lot to do with making Saints competitive for all those years

It's actually the 2023 1st, plus a 2024 2nd, but Denver get a 2024 3rd back.

Aaron Rodgers is at Pebble Beach for the golf and he said this....

“I'm just going to say that the predominant team that we hear as we're walking is Raiders. A lot of Raider fans are encouraging me, a lot of 'Davante misses you' comments. We're having some fun with it”

He's currently spending 4 days in a room with no light or external stimuli and hoping to gain enlightenment on his next career move. Yep. I genuinely hope he's taking the piss with this type of thing and laughing at reporters reporting this tripe but from previous ~opinions I'm not convinced.

I saw that and had to check a few times if it was a parody news story

From the man himself he can wear adult dippers or there's a small toilet. No nightlight. Back to reality or lack there of as a Jets fan give me Carr over Rodgers unless we give little for Rodgers, he could be gone in a year if he arrives at all. Carr is in his prime, controversial opinion but I think there's an element that he doesn't get love around the league because of his older brother being a draft bust and the organisation he's being with for his career to date. You get more shots with a capable QB over say a 4 or 5 year contract rather than Rodgers. A playoff berth next year keeps Joe Douglas and particularly Bobbie Salah in a job to build on year 4.

Playoffs...Playoffs... They could win it all🙂

Same with Hester, who should have been first ballot anyway.

I'd be surprised if Willis got in tbf. Undoubtedly he was a HOF talent, but he retired early without winning anything.

Himself and Luke Keuchly will go down as the 2 best inside linebackers of the last 10 years, but both will struggle to get a jacket due to shorter careers and a lack of rings.

Zach Thomas as taken a looong time to get in, he's 5th all time in career tackles.

Wilfork deserved a nod too, but looking at the list of who got in it's hard to say who should have been left out in his place. I'm sure he'll get in in the near future.

People should not under-estimate how bad Hackett was as a HC - he was probably top 5 worst ever. Jerry Rosburg showed what an adult in the job can do in two games. When he took over after Hackett was fired one of the first things that he did was fire Butch Barry - the OL coach - when Rosburg announced it at a team meeting then entire roster cheered. In those last two games Wilson actually looked a decent QB.

One thing that is clear from the season is that Wilson is not a pocket QB, no matter how much he wants to 'cook' - he needs a strong running game and a good OL to be effective. The Broncos were down to fourth-string players along the OL by the end of the season.

Payton is noted as a coach who builds O lines - that is his forte - and he is capable of designing an offence that maximises Wilson's skillset and will minimise his weaknesses. I do think that Wilson is capable of being a top ten QB under Payton. If it turns out that he has fallen off a cliff then the Broncos will dump him after next season.

A much bigger concern is who Payton will have as his DC. Evero should have stayed in Denver - he had a winning defence to work with and would have been a hot HC prospect after next season. Instead he behaved like a petulant child, blowing interviews by defending Hackett. Denver does seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel by interviewing Vance Joseph. Rex Ryan is apparently the front-runner - the big question if he gets the job is not his ability as a DC (he was one of the best ever) - but whether the game has passed him by in the 7 years he has been out of coaching. Messing up the DC hire could undermine everything that Payton is capable of doing with the offence.

The Franchise tag pay for this year.

I can see the Giants and Raiders tagging Barkley and Jacobs at that money. Tight end and safety pretty friendly too. No issue at QB either.

Quarterback

$32,416,000

Linebacker

$20,926,000

Wide receiver

$19,743,000

Defensive end

$19,727,000

Defensive tackle

$18,937,000

Cornerback

$18,140,000

Offensive line

$18,244,000

Safety

$14,460,000

Tight end

$11,435,000

Running back

$10,091,000

Kicker/punter

$5,393,000

$10mn for RB tag is a good price. If the Giants are smart they'll tag Barkley and give him a big year this year then let him go. Giving a massive contract to an injury prone RB as hes hitting his late 20s is surely at this stage accepted to be a bad idea.