The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Out of those HOF theres a few clear calls, Revis Island, Joe Thomas for 2, but I hope big Vince gets in. He was probably the best nose tackle I've ever seen play. As much as Aaron Donald is a DE/DT and a generational talent, Vince Wilfork was a great NT/DT hybrid, a run stuffing space eater that could also not only not be a liability on passing downs but actuially contribute too. Probably my favorite all time defensive player, not many others come to mind.

My 5 for what it's worth:

Vince Wilfork, Darelle Revis, James Harrison, Demarcus Ware and (he should be in as one of the most exciting space players there's been) Devin Hester.

Ah he will surely get in. I'll spam the voting committee with tapes of him eating the turkey leg, the butt fumble, and the interception runback on a loop.

Wilfork is a great call, I wonder with this year being even more stacked than usual will he just be unlucky, but he'll get in eventually, he was just too dominant not to.

And I definitely agree with you on Hester, Bears bias aside I was kind of surprised he didn't go first ballot given what he accomplished, easily the best in his position and redefined that position while he was at it, but I know ST is often looked down on by some in the HOF deliberations.

So.. Baker F'n Mayfield? What a game last night.

Giving elite players more time to recover is smart but they'd still like to win and improve their record. They don't have a first round draft pick, traded tomtie Lions for Stafford, so they've no reason not to try and win.

The season is gone though. Let the players rest and recharge and go at it again next season when they will have an easier schedule due to finishing 4th in their division this year.

I just find it hard to believe that the majority of their big hitters - Stafford, Kupp, Donald - are all injured at once.

As I said they get nothing out of tanking. The Lions have their first round pick. It's a real good deal for the Lions to trade a 33 year old QB for a decent 27 year old first pick in the draft QB and potentially a top 5 pick.

Yeah but that's just a smart move.

I picked up what he said initially as a suggestion that they were tanking. That was Cavan King, I thought it was him again, my bad.

And Zach Wilson is reported to be starting on Sunday.

Nice for the coaches to get him back out there to see if he has learned anything without the locker room getting annoyed at them given they can hardly stick White out there against doctor's orders.

So the commanders are going back with Wentz at QB. I think eagle and colts fans can tell you why that most likely won’t end well.

And I see derek carr is being benched in Las Vegas.

Well his guaranteed money is finished but I didn’t think they’d go this way as I think he’s a good QB if he could have stability in coaching. I saw a stat that he’s head 7 HCs in 9 years or maybe it’s coordinators but bar a few that’s not a good situation to he in.

I also saw that Russell Wilson has his own office and his team have keys to the broncos facility. I’m sure Russell Wilson is a nice guy but it feels at times he’s as real as a false ceiling in public.

I must have it wrong. I understand they'll have to pay him for the season but the cap hit the season after is very small as far as I'm aware. I think they should pay him next season and then do whatever business they want to do after that. Maybe there's something that kicks in if he's there next year that I'm unaware of?

The reason I'm saying they should keep.him for another year is my opinion that drafting a QB in '23 is a bad move. I don't think Young or Stroud are worth the risk with high picks, they might work out but I think it's more unlikely than likely that they will. '24 is a great class, there's four guys in that class that I'd have above Stroud and Young and another four that I'd have at their level.

The Commanders could be a great fit for Carr (ownership issues aside). Two good WR's in McLaurin and Dotson, good RB group, a solid TE in Thomas and a potentially excellent defence.

There is probably up to a dozen teams looking for a QB1 this offseason so Carr is pretty much guaranteed a starting job somewhere, he has a no trade clause so will have a lot of leverage and a big say on where he lands.

Jets are another team with a playoff roster but no QB1

Yeah....I thought it didn't look like that much of a collision/hit either.

Must be something serious underlying.....I hope it has a good ending like Eriksen.

Well I said last year wasn't a great class. I've said many times that I don't fancy anybody from the next year. I've like one QB who wasn't ranked in the top three on occasion and I've been right and wrong in those. I've more often than not said that the top picks shouldn't be taken so high and I've been right more than wrong on those comments.

I didn't think Mahomes would make it because I thought he wouldn't get away with chances he took in college and I was way wrong on that one.

The last QB I was absolutely certain about was Andrew Luck. Caleb Williams is better than Andrew Luck. There's four or five NFL starters in the 2024 class.

Next year's class is now this year's class. I don't like Bryce Young. Stroud is a quandary to me, lots to like but also plenty of question marks.

I do like Malik Cunningham a lot.

We're running out ways for defenders to tackle QBs at this point. Every time you touch them you risk a penalty.

I had been hoping for overtime as it seemed fair and an interesting end for a neutral but after that call I didn't want it changing the game.

I am really curious what the official thought they saw. Did they think Cousins was slammed down as I can see similarities to the motion that concussed Tua? Did the head contact look more severe from their point of view?

I'm not biased, it was a BS call.

There's been a few cases this year where the defender plays it safe ad pulls out of the tackle, only for the QB to fake the pass and run away with the ball. It's ruining the game.

Sean Payton is back as Denver HC. Saints get Denver's 2023 1st round pick at 29 and 2024 2nd round pick and aswell as an unspecified future 3rd round pick. The Waltons must be throwing him some wad of cash to turn this Denver offense and Russell Wilson around