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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    There's pricks in every walk of life. Problem is when they have a vehicle.


    Had similar today. But L plates so I let it go with no more than a shrug. Overtook and they stopped to take the next right, leaving almost no space for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭patrickc


    not a near miss, but was cycling yesterday on the N80. a rigid truck with an aul fella driving layed on the horn going by, making some gestures at me. There was a a hard shoulder which was less than a 1/2 a foot wide and I think he wanted me to cycle in there. Not a chance!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Cycling back from the school drop-off just there and a car tries and fails to pass me due to oncoming traffic. They attempt again this time blind as we're approaching a 90 degree left-hand bend in the road. Sure enough a car is coming in the opposite direction meaning they need to be in my space so dive to the curb as both of us are on the apex completely cutting me off. No acknowledgment as they floor it to get away. Less than 30 seconds later they've pulled into a parking spot on their phone. So I pull in to explain what they'd done but probably not as calmly as I should have as they'd almost knocked me down. The excuses ranged from didn't see me, to you'd plenty of room to they had right of way as they'd gotten in front. She had no idea how close she had gotten or why it might be an issue and in her mind I was over reacting!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭micar


    I've often thought of asking straight away.....when you passed me, how close do you think you were to me by getting them to stretch out their arms.

    Them tell them the reality of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,446 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    When safe to do so, I sometimes put my hand out when being close passed, and if the wing mirror or body of the vehicle hits my hand, that is very hard evidence that they were too close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    She really couldn't see the issue in her mind she hadn't hit me so it didn't matter how close she had gotten crazy stuff.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Even if they were truthful and hadn't seen you, surely that alone would be a huge cause for concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    +1, had a Bus Éireann driver pull in on top of me at Usher's Quay just after Mellow's Bridge junction where the cycle lane disappears. Slapped the side of the bus a couple of times but he continued to encroach and force me towards the kerb, slapped the back of the bus again as now had no room and had to stop but he continued on. He was stopped at the lights outside Guinness so I pulled up in the cycle lane beside him and opened the bus doors so he had to get out to reset. I asked him to explain his driving and forcing me off the road to where is only response was he didn't, one seriously ignorant and dangerous driver. Lights had well gone green at this stage so he closed the door and climbed back into his seat when I turned the door open level again and just said we'll see what his employer would say. Didn't bother reporting but hopefully the lost time and inconvenience might get him to think of what had he to gain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Oh if you're within arms reach of me your car is getting a wrap on the window or roof.

    Quite happy if you want to stop to "Debate" the merits of same. And if you wish to warn me against damaging your car, well next time drive properly



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Yeah it's a bit concerning when people can't see you directly in front of them!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Zero f*cks given I'd say. He doesn't care if he is late, he will just report it as you pulling the door or simply that traffic was busier than expected. Unless the gardai actively get involved, and you have proof, both of which are difficult in and of themselves, nothing will happen. I had one admit he done it intentionally and nothing was done by BE or the Gardai. Disheartening, as its a real f*ck you to decent members of society.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    That's it exactly. Today I had a Dublin Bus wait for me to take off from the lights first as he knew there was a bus stop in a couple of hundred metres and passing me just to pull in would be more than a bit ignorant. Then I had a private coach wait to take off at a green light left turn filter (Fosters Ave.) because he saw me approaching on the left side ('segregated') cycle lane. I've taken to gesturing thanks to drivers like that for two reasons - 1) it's nice to know that when you do something decent it's appreciated, but more selfishly, 2) I find that physically acknowledging decent people has a mellowing effect on the brain, probably in the converse way that getting worked up by ignorant f**s has a detrimental and stress-inducing effect. I enjoy my commutes a lot more know. That's not to say that dangerous drivers don't get a roar, but that's another kettle of fish.

    There are plenty - probably a majority - of decent people out there. It's just human nature, unfortunately, that we tend to focus on the asshats (like the BMW who sat in the bus lane from RTE through to Donnybrook because he was too important to wait in traffic like the rest of the cars).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    The first fcuker should be taken out of that car and bet around the road in front of everyone. What if a toddler shot out of one of those driveways.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    The judge would ultimately take into account that it was understandable with traffic volumes, that they were previously never of note to the gardai, that they need the vehicle for work, they have previously never ran over a small child before, surely thats the parents fault for letting a child walk on the pavement. Probably fine the parent a few €100 for the court poorbox.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    LOLZ... Cram not having a good day!

    That said, it's probably not far off what would actually happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    The new traffic calming measure just outside a primary school near Enniskerry yesterday morning. Went through clear and then met this moron coming against me. He couldn't or wouldn't wait the (literally) 2 seconds it would have taken to let me finish my manoeuvre. Bear in mind the road behind me was completely free.

    He stopped, opened the door and shouted that I was 'a f3ckin idiot'. It was my fault it appears! So I decided I wasn't letting this go and turned to go back to where he was adjusting his wing mirror (the noise on the video is from where I walloped it). Unsurprisingly, he hotfooted it then.

    Apologies for the choice words but I was a tad vexed!




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭Paddigol



    What's his argument? He has stop/ yeild road markings in his lane at the junction? Why does he need to cross the solid white line between lanes? You were at the junction before him? How can he possibly think he has a case to argue???

    Its a classic case of ignorant asshat feeling brave because they're encased in metal. Wouldn't have a peep out of half of them if they had a similar issue in a supermarket. Which is probably what makes them so dangerous on the road, all that bottled up frustration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,446 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It’s the child’s own fault for not wearing a helmet obvs.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    The argument will always be that "I was nowhere near you". People don't care that they cross the while line or don't use their indicator or run through a light when it turned red a couple of seconds before, as long as they haven't caused an accident. They'll always break the rules of the road if it's more convenient for them.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Its so weird though because that view of "I didn't cause an accident" rather than the truth of "thankfully everyone else reacted to my breach of the rules so no physical harm was done". I was coming to the T junction at the end of the cycle path coming up from Dun Laoghaire train station earlier this week. Bike had a red and was stopped, cars had green. As I approached, amber came, one car sped up, then red and a Land Rover flew through. The bike light was green at this stage and the cyclist had pushed off, now thankfully the cyclist glanced a second time and stopped. He let a roar and the Land Rover driver started giving out to him, as if somehow, the near miss was the cyclists fault. Some people are just ****s. The irony being the Land Rover stopped to give out for so long, his lights had went green again. So if he had followed the rules, he would have been in the same place but with one less person being nearly run over.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,171 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's just an instant adrenaline rush reaction, someone shouts at you, you shout back. well, for many people it is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    It is that instant gut reaction alright. I remember many years ago when I had just got my full drivers licence and I was driving in the city centre at night. I made a right turn, not seeing a cyclist coming the opposite direction. Luckily I stopped before making the full manoeuvre but I instinctively beeped the horn at him even though the cyclist did nothing wrong!

    Straight away I put hands up and apologised as he looked on at me in disgust. At least I learned a good lesson, although I still cringe thinking about it to this day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Yep, I walked over a zebra crossing lately and a driver flew through on the phone.

    I roared "HEY", he rolled down the window and shouted something. I replied with a comment on his excellent driving.

    He then stopped the car. Opened the window fully and kindly advise that he would "Break my face" if I didn't shut up.


    At this point in hindsight, you should always shut up. God knows what kind of lunatic you're dealing with. Bare-knuckle boxer, knife wielding physco.... or just a wannabe hard man with a big mouth. I did not shut up and very luckily he was the later.


    Adrenaline rush reaction



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    There are days where I feel like the guy in falling down and part of me would welcome that reaction, there are other days where I am sensible and I just keep going. I really must get checked over by a mental health specialist as it can't be good to have such extreme differences in reaction to the same events.

    As for the adrenaline reaction, I get it but nonetheless, that lasts a few seconds, and i have had people give out and then within seconds apologise. Ive done the same and then took a deep breath and said sorry, my fault, I just got a bit of a scare.

    I'll happily admit I'm wrong, even if I intially didn't, if I am, and I think many people do. unfortunately the people who would admit an error in judgement are not normally the types to regularly make massive errors in judgement, so I think it is still more weighted against some people just being d*cks rather than purely adrenaline.

    Who knows, maybe I'm the bad guy.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,171 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    the issue with the sort of interactions described above, is that generally, the motorist in the sort of scenario WB outlined, is blissfully unaware that they've done something wrong, and they react before they've time to assess what just happened. so their default reaction is one of surprise and anger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Conor McGregor got taken out on his bike today:

    https://v.redd.it/332mdpsbinea1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Christ he took it well



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Heavily muscled athlete used to a few knocks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,446 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Surprised that he doesn’t have some level of security with him. If you’re worth €100 million or more, you could well be a target of others for all kinds of reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Christ that has to be one of the worst I’ve seen. Solid white line as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Surprised he's going around on what looks like a fairly cheap/basic Orbea bicycle in a pair of cheap looking MTB trousers too...



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    To be fair people don't know bikes. If he had a carbon XC bike with the blingy kashima coated seat post nobody would know it's €8,000. At least with the rest of his stuff like watches you know it's expensive because they're tacky as hell.



  • Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭harmless


    If you are looking at it from the point of someone who participates in road bike events then you can see why someone with a practically unlimited budget would get all the go fast stuff. But if all you want out of it is the cardio exercise does it matter what speed you are going?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,999 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Lord almighty.And i thought the N40 in Cork was bad.This is unbelivable.Where are the Garda if this is a regular occurance?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,999 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Taxi drivers make their own rules.They are very busy people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Had the aul "stick on the indicator and turn" this morning.

    Granted, the clown looked like they were going to turn so I was prepared.

    They indicated as they were beside me and thanks to traffic everyone was going slowly.

    What was interesting was that they stopped just after starting the turn, say 30 degrees. So I slow rolled in front of them. I reckon they knew what they were doing and bullied their turn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Not the scariest I've had since we weren't going particularly fast coming to the junction but possibly the closest and most pointless.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭Gaz


    Trying to decide if I should go to the hassle of reporting this. I've rewatched it so many times it dosnt seem as bad now.





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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,171 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    not a near miss!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,446 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It's pretty bad, driving on the wrong side of the road, not seeing a lit cyclist! Were they cutting the corner or trying to park? Hope they apologised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭micar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭Gaz


    Yeah, clipped me but no damage to me or the bike. Their attitude was what really annoyed me ... "I didn't hit you, i didnt see you .. your lights should be higher" ... I have two handlebar level lights in the front.



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