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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    Cycling down the hill from Cook street towards the Brazen head and about to turn left onto Ushers Quay on the separated cycle track when two kids with hoods and masks on a scrambler motorbike come tearing around the corner toward me at high speed, facing into traffic playing chicken. I'd no where to go so pull into the kerb fast... As I'm slowing theyre about to pass fast, but about 2 feet out from me the fella on the back throws an egg so hard that it literally smashes into my face, goo and shell and soon blood explode everywhere. The shell split the skin on my nose and forehead it had so much force from such close range. If I'd not be wearing my glasses he could have blinded me. Standing there a little shocked, wiping up the mess with my gloves, not one person asked me if I was alright. I probably couldve counted 10 or more direct witnesses, mostly tourists. It wasn't till I asked some guy if there was a lot of blood on my face that I was offered a tissue. Just madness, Dublin city center has really gone to sh#t, two o'clock on a Saturday afternoon.. .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    Grand, just a bit annoyed tbh and very glad now it wasn't a rock or something heavier he threw. I've Gardai in the family I mentioned it to but tbh I wouldn't waste my time reporting it officially.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Alias G


    A woman was blinded a few years ago as a result of an egging. To add hurt and financial pain to physical injury, she lost a case against the driver of the drive by egging subsequently if I remember rightly. Should definitely go to AGS.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭feelings


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,459 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Absolutely. Do this, even though there's no chance anything can be done. But the stats need to show it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Alias G


    From what I heard, she took a case against the driver of the car because he was 18 and therefore of responsible age where as the individual who threw the egg was under age. The driver simply denied any responsibility in throwing the egg. That's what I heard 3rd hand at least.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    My flatmate a few years ago got the same done to him by some local D4 young lads. Drove by in the parental units SUV, hit him 1cm above the eye, swelling was so bad he couldn't see out of it for a few weeks. Didn't catch the reg but had a rugger bugger accent as they shouted at him. Lucky it wasn't 1cm lower or he'd have suffered the same fate.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Assault resulting in visible injuries is a criminal matter, not a civil matter.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    I spent an hour in my local station today having a Garda take my complaint about a road incident very seriously so I've got a more positive view of them at the moment.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,616 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Not quite a near miss, but...

    Cycling with wife and son, stopped in the Advanced Stopping Zone. In Rathgar cross roads, for those who know it, having come from Terenure. The intention was to proceed thru the junction and take a right down Highfield Road. So we had to be in the right hand lane, taking the lane in the ASZ.

    As we're waiting is noticed the Taxi behind, revving his engine. I turned around and gave him my sternest look.

    As the lights go green, we move off. Before we've gone 10 metres, ie haven't yet reached the right turn 20 metres from the ASZ, this taxi driving d1ck starts beeping. A kid and a lady, me out front.

    There was no oncoming traffic. So I kind of circled back, and let roar at him. I hate to think what I would have done to him had he stopped and argued the toss. He roared back.

    As is so often the case, the professional driver is convinced he's in the right. Someone's in his way and he's going to bully them out of the way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I will say that the bus driver was in the wrong and no excusing him there. I do have a genuine question about that cycle path though. What exactly is wrong with it? I haven't cycled on it before but I have driven alongside it many times and have looked at it on Google Maps. It looks pretty good to me! Is there a single bad spot or weird junction that I'm missing or something?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Regardless of people's opinions on that bike lane there was no other traffic in front or behind the bus in lane 1 stopping the driver moving out and back in safely to pass. He's purposely being a prick. Whatever about a car doing it, a bus isn't something you want to mess around with. Looks like traffic is also fairly light.

    The bike lane has a lot of harsh bumps once you've dropped down from the slip plus it has a lot of debris as there's a high volume of trucks coming from Grange Castle getting onto the N4. It's also prone to being overgrown in places so half the lane is taken up by sharp bushes. Where the bridge is you have to come to a crawl to go around the sign post and then you have to stop and wait to cross at Woodies and again on the other side as it's a busy section. Add the odd pedestrian traveling in the same direction as you also. I've had to drop into the bus lane and back up on occasion, this particular stretch is bike only as far as I remember.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭tnegun


    On that cycle path this piece of design is outstanding, a foot path merges, the cycle lane marking disappears, a busy bus stop/chicane, a merge back where you'll immediately be cut up by traffic turning left then the slip itself is segregated from the main line at that point which pushes traffic into the on road cycle lane. A cluster fcuk of design.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    This is the reason I can somewhat understand the frustration of drivers (but I just need to be clear that I don't agree with anger towards cyclists or dangerous manoeuvres!). The majority don't know there's anything wrong with the path. I cycle, but not along that road, but I am very well aware that many lanes with problems. Even still, I don't think you'd get a clear picture of what the issues are until you actually use it.

    Unfortunately it leaves a lot of drivers with a dislike of cyclists for not using dedicated paths, even though they are perfectly entitled not to use them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    All of which 95% of motorists whizzing by a few feet away will be blissfully unaware. As far as they're concerned, there's a purpose built, perfectly good cycle lane there, which the cyclist cabal are constantly clamouring for more of, and there some lad in lycra holding up the traffic in the bus lane.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Just to play devils advocate, but is it possible the bus driver did move out and it could be not so much that it was intentional but that like many, he underestimated your speed and pulled in far too quickly.

    Long story short, still sh1tty driving but for a completely different reason, not sure if being inept is better or worse than being malicious.

    It could also be more malicious in that he did know but wanted some excuse if he did manage to knock you off.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    They seemed to be driving fairly slow themselves considering it's an 80kph road far enough away from the slip to be up to speed so that doesn't help the situation. Hard to overtake when you're not actually speeding up!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭TheHouseIRL


    Not so much a near miss, as sheer ignorance. I gave them an earful and got the usual brain dead "I had my indicator on, you were going slow, etc."

    Also, some bonus footage of the Washboard Launderette van parked inside the cycle lane bollards.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    It is pure ignorance, no one was in any danger but it is pure f*cking c***ish behaviour. Why not just pull in behind you,nothing specific to the spot (although how many cars manage to get behind those wands FFS).

    You could be right but they did slow and wait till they could pull out further. Lots of new bus drivers out there with the shortage. I'm not excusing it, it is still really bad situational awareness but 1) its possible it wasn't intentional 2) its better than some I have gotten from BE. Doesn't excuse the sh1tty driving but I would actually feel better if it wasn't intentional. Like I said before though, which is worse a talented intentional b****cks or a nice but incompetent one.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Bloody hell that's pure ignorance. I'd rather get left hooked at the junction then someone full on park up to a stop right in front of me!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    There's pricks in every walk of life. Problem is when they have a vehicle.


    Had similar today. But L plates so I let it go with no more than a shrug. Overtook and they stopped to take the next right, leaving almost no space for me.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Cycling back from the school drop-off just there and a car tries and fails to pass me due to oncoming traffic. They attempt again this time blind as we're approaching a 90 degree left-hand bend in the road. Sure enough a car is coming in the opposite direction meaning they need to be in my space so dive to the curb as both of us are on the apex completely cutting me off. No acknowledgment as they floor it to get away. Less than 30 seconds later they've pulled into a parking spot on their phone. So I pull in to explain what they'd done but probably not as calmly as I should have as they'd almost knocked me down. The excuses ranged from didn't see me, to you'd plenty of room to they had right of way as they'd gotten in front. She had no idea how close she had gotten or why it might be an issue and in her mind I was over reacting!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    I've often thought of asking straight away.....when you passed me, how close do you think you were to me by getting them to stretch out their arms.

    Them tell them the reality of it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,792 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    When safe to do so, I sometimes put my hand out when being close passed, and if the wing mirror or body of the vehicle hits my hand, that is very hard evidence that they were too close.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭tnegun


    She really couldn't see the issue in her mind she hadn't hit me so it didn't matter how close she had gotten crazy stuff.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Even if they were truthful and hadn't seen you, surely that alone would be a huge cause for concern.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Oh if you're within arms reach of me your car is getting a wrap on the window or roof.

    Quite happy if you want to stop to "Debate" the merits of same. And if you wish to warn me against damaging your car, well next time drive properly

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Yeah it's a bit concerning when people can't see you directly in front of them!

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Zero f*cks given I'd say. He doesn't care if he is late, he will just report it as you pulling the door or simply that traffic was busier than expected. Unless the gardai actively get involved, and you have proof, both of which are difficult in and of themselves, nothing will happen. I had one admit he done it intentionally and nothing was done by BE or the Gardai. Disheartening, as its a real f*ck you to decent members of society.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    That's it exactly. Today I had a Dublin Bus wait for me to take off from the lights first as he knew there was a bus stop in a couple of hundred metres and passing me just to pull in would be more than a bit ignorant. Then I had a private coach wait to take off at a green light left turn filter (Fosters Ave.) because he saw me approaching on the left side ('segregated') cycle lane. I've taken to gesturing thanks to drivers like that for two reasons - 1) it's nice to know that when you do something decent it's appreciated, but more selfishly, 2) I find that physically acknowledging decent people has a mellowing effect on the brain, probably in the converse way that getting worked up by ignorant f**s has a detrimental and stress-inducing effect. I enjoy my commutes a lot more know. That's not to say that dangerous drivers don't get a roar, but that's another kettle of fish.

    There are plenty - probably a majority - of decent people out there. It's just human nature, unfortunately, that we tend to focus on the asshats (like the BMW who sat in the bus lane from RTE through to Donnybrook because he was too important to wait in traffic like the rest of the cars).

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