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Is alcohol an excuse?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Jigsaw


    Some people really are massive assholes when they’ve had a feed of drink but think the drink merely amplifies the assholeness in them. There is an asshole in there at all times just waiting to be amplified.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    That is arrant rubbish and part of the lying delusion that IS alcohol. It deludes and distorts for those who cannot or will nto face reality. Your post shows that so clearly. well done! Inhibitions are there for a reason. They are a safety net. Protecting us and protecting others from us...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There’s a few posters around here who’d drive you to the stuff…



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,303 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    But it's the person not the drink that's caused the situation.

    It's hard to empathise with anyone who's causing fights and shouting horrible insults at people.

    Whether they are drunk or sober, under the influence of drugs or just plain nasty people their behaviour is unacceptable.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,449 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    So true. And some who haven't had a decent drink in their lives but condemn the demon drink.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7




  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Exactly so. Alcohol multiplies those facets.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,449 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Let's face it, there are just as many people who, without alcohol, are ignorant a-holes, obnoxious, argumentative, or just downright rude, as there are those where it's brought on by too much drink.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7




  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Not sure re that at all.... I know that that is the speil but.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    The government take a braindead approach to dealing with alcohol consumption, they treat grown adults like teenagers telling them when they have to stop drinking and they treat teenagers like bold children if they have 1 drink which results in making teenagers think drinking alcohol is the coolest thing in the world.

    Having 4 or 5 pints with your friends at the weekend once a week is a good way to socialise, if a person doesn't understand this then they have no business giving advice on alcohol.

    At least 2 billion people in the world drink Alcohol. It makes most of these people happy as it helps with meeting new people, catching up with friends and dating, it also sometimes tastes really good. The problem is for a few hundred million people worldwide it does cause problems, problems that can include anything up to death.

    If we want people to listen to the dangers of alcohol and get less people binge drinking it needs to come from a place of open chat and education rather than from a place of alcohol been bad



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    Just 3 anecdotal types. There are others. Fortunately, there are some worth dating.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,821 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke



    I can only speak from my own experience. When I used to drink and take coke, I took tiny lines just to "pep me up". It stopped the drink from turning me into a mess, but it didn't make me aggressive like people who shovel it up their nose would. It allowed me, who can't keep up with other seasoned drinkers, to keep up. I mean, I also had to get sick a few times to make physical room for more drink, which is stupid in and of itself, but such was my drinking life. My body was doing everything to tell me to stop, so I did. And haven't taken coke since either. And I wouldn't have done it on a random night out. Just the long ones, early gigs into a night of drinking, weddings, birthday seshs. Normal nights I'd just drink without it, get drunk, go home, have a sad **** and fall asleep depressed.

    Have smoked a serious amount of weed since though. Wish I discovered it sooner. Or, wish I paid more attention to is sooner instead of continuing to think I need to drink and socialise to be happy. I wish I didn't need anything to forget about life, but I'm not perfect so I need something. And cannabis is the best option out there for me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭Girl Geraldine


    Sound like right loser.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,303 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    100 people sitting at home having a beer no headlines.

    100 people dining in a restaurant having a couple of glasses of wine no headlines.

    I idiot acting the maggot after a few drinks gets his name in the local paper.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,303 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Yes some people should not drink.

    I just picked 100 to 1 as an example it's probably a lot more than that.

    This is Saturday night most pubs and restaurants will be busy , folk will be at home having a bottle of wine.

    The number of cases arising from tonight will be very small compared to the number enjoying a drink responsibly.

    Alcohol is not a major problem for most Irish people.

    As I said earlier in the thread alcohol is often put forward as an excuse for bad behaviour when it should be regarded as an aggravating factor.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,449 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    If your premise is based on domestic violence rates then perhaps you should look at those rates in Ireland compared to elsewhere. We're well below the EU average and the US.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Patches oHoulihan


    ZERO benefits to drink.

    Multiple downsides

    A very expensive poison that people self administer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Patches oHoulihan


    Alcohol is brutal poison and everything else its in is just to mask the taste of it



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gimme someone who is pissed vs someone who is coked/speed/E'd up any day of the week.

    That said some of the old sayings re: drink are as true now as they where when I worked in the hospitality trade as they call it now. There are those who drink and those who drink and shouldn't and a sober mans thoughts are a drunken mans words.



  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭slither12


    In all fairness, ecstasy is not known to cause violence compared to the likes of alcohol and other stimulants.



  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭slither12


    Drink can actually relieve anxiety (at very low doses). I know it sounds stupid but I once gave a school presentation on half a bottle of 4% beer. Relaxed me enough without causing massive disinhibition.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,303 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    So don't drink it and leave those of us who do to make our own minds up.

    A cool beer on a summer's day, unbeatable.

    A glass of red wine with a steak, perfection.

    A glass of whiskey by the fire on a winter night, nectar of the gods.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    It can also give people an overinflated semse of confidence. The amount of lads I've seen over the years while I was working in working in pubs/clubs who think they'll win a fight with 4 or 5 bouncers is astonishing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    You sound like someone who has no social life. If you don't understand the positives of something then your not the right person to be talking about the negatives



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    Actually going for a few this afternoon. After Sunday lunch.

    Should holy hour be re-examined as an option for those involved in self medication?

    Pubs in the 3rd millennium are shight anyways? Sunday boozing really amplifies this quandry. Most non smoking slaves, who work overpaid banal square jobs in middle management, tend to not go near a pub of a Sunday for fear of spoiling their precious Monday's with a headache? These social pariahs prefer to hit the gym for a sweat, before enjoying a good tut tutting of colleagues they dislike or disapprove of during the first 2 hours of Monday morning during which, similar to the last two hours of Friday evening, absolutely nothing of any relevance to anything actually takes place at all?

    Not only are drinkers now forced to leave their comfortable environments to enjoy a cigarette, they are also forced to share the pub with non drinking piss heads on a Saturday night who basically use the pub as a meeting centre to eye up potential casual sex partners for later.

    Non smokers phucked everything up bigtime. They destroyed this country, they don't even drink ?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You don't need an excuse op. If you want a glass of wine have it, just enjoy yourself.



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