Jacinda Ardern to step down as New Zealand PM

She was about to be trashed because some lunatic wants to put their child's life at risk and ignore the advice of health professionals?

I disagree. A real leader knows when it's time to pass the baton too. Holding onto power too long when you know you can not turn it around is usually a result hubris and is poor leadership.

She wanted to get out on her own terms, which however shows a streak of personal preservation also.

More questions about things I didn’t say.

I didn’t say a woman wouldn’t need more time than a man after they have a child.

I didn’t say she shouldn’t have the right to reproduction.

I didn’t say everyone should think the same way I do. The electorate can all have their own opinions.

I’m done answering you as you will just come back with more questions implying things I never said. No one can fail to understand what I said so badly so I can only assume it’s intentional.

Meh never got the clamour about her, just seems like another average prime minister who was held up as a beacon due to her zero covid policy on an island where the nearest land was 2000km away.

Actually there doesn't appear to be the love in for say Sanna Marin in Finland.

She is even younger and is head of an EU state, has stepped out to challenge her much more powerful neighbour and state Finland has right to join NATO if it wanted.

Hell being vegetarian and being raised by two women doesn't seem to get her above Arden in the pecking order.

Anyway I would rather go to her parties any day of the week, 😉

Kaja Kallas even moreso than her Finnish colleague has very much stood against Russia.

Until the population were mostly vaccinated and Omicron had been shown to be less severe than Delta.

Just about 10 months before China...

And their deaths are so much lower because they missed Alpha and Delta.

So many posts to argue that she was an unimportant, unpopular woman who did nothing of any significance?

And this is Ireland.

No wonder people think that she was bullied and trolled out of it in New Zealand.

Whatever about this woman, people need to stand up to this malicious bashing that incessant on social media as it is an attempt by certain groups to pervert democracy.

She became known BECAUSE of her very human response to the Christchurch Attack not only because she was young or female. But there are some who cannot give her an ounce of credit... Is that because she is young and female then too?

I am hearing voices from posters who have denied Covid and all its seriousness all along, have been very antivax and antiscience and pro some very dodgy conspiracies, who all seem to be of the one opinion here.. Why do I not believe it what they are saying about this lady is true?

What are you putting this down to?

Margaret Thatcher was abused all the time (bit*h and wicked witch of the west and all that) and survived an assassination attempt via the Brighton hotel bombing.

She never resigned (edit: well she did but was really ousted).

I've said it before but I don't really care about what anyone says to anyone via the internet, particularly on social media, rather than if one has a direct line to someone via the internet or mobile, that's different.

Let’s start with the biggest lie. I didn’t bring up abortion first. Joseywhale did as you can see and pretended that I had said it. Why do you continue with this tactic?

I didn’t stay she can’t be PM if she takes time off to have a baby. I said it makes her a bad PM as it shows a lack of commitment and prioritising her personal life over the country in my opinion. How is that not clear?

You talk about debating skills and then make up things to argue with. I don’t think you have the calibre for this discussion.

whenever I reply to you or joseywhale the other one jumps in with a very similar, almost identical posting style and tactics. It’s suspicious.

I deal with your types all the time. Can’t handle the reason behind someone’s point of view so you make up things to hit them with.

I thanked a post by Witcher that pointed out the story was wrong.

'Do you think that poster spends his/her time looking at NZ news? Or its court decisions?'

I've already said on this thread I don't know anything about Arden except her support for the so-called "mandate". Her stance on this was widely reported by BBC, Irish Times etc.

Haven't I already told you once to stop making assumptions about me on the 'Dangers of the right' thread? You don't know me. Stop getting so personal.