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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Ah he will surely get in. I'll spam the voting committee with tapes of him eating the turkey leg, the butt fumble, and the interception runback on a loop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    As you can see from the picture on my profile I like him a lot. He's my favourite player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,103 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Wilfork is a great call, I wonder with this year being even more stacked than usual will he just be unlucky, but he'll get in eventually, he was just too dominant not to.

    And I definitely agree with you on Hester, Bears bias aside I was kind of surprised he didn't go first ballot given what he accomplished, easily the best in his position and redefined that position while he was at it, but I know ST is often looked down on by some in the HOF deliberations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Yes you've got it in one there. ST's is considered less important which is wrong in my opinion. If you were outstanding at your position then you should be in the hall without question.

    Hester for me should have been first ballot. Matthew Slater is similar in a different way but he's not even retired yet.

    Both multiple all-pro and probowl selections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    So.. Baker F'n Mayfield? What a game last night.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I think the Rams have given up on the season. Kupp, Donald, Stafford and Robinson all out now. It looks to me like when the season was done, they told the lads to rest and recuperate for next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Giving elite players more time to recover is smart but they'd still like to win and improve their record. They don't have a first round draft pick, traded tomtie Lions for Stafford, so they've no reason not to try and win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,103 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    They could be getting ready to do a rebuild, and looking to trade some of those guys to start getting some picks back. Injuries would do them no good on that front.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    The season is gone though. Let the players rest and recharge and go at it again next season when they will have an easier schedule due to finishing 4th in their division this year.

    I just find it hard to believe that the majority of their big hitters - Stafford, Kupp, Donald - are all injured at once.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    They've been incredibly lucky over the last few years when it comes to injuries to star players so they were due something like that happening.

    4th vs 3rd placed schedule in the NFC isn't going to be significantly different enough to make you choose to tank. At this stage I'd probably argue the only difference making schedule is getting 1st in the AFC and having to come up against Mahomes/Allen/Burrow or Lamar.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    As I said they get nothing out of tanking. The Lions have their first round pick. It's a real good deal for the Lions to trade a 33 year old QB for a decent 27 year old first pick in the draft QB and potentially a top 5 pick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    He's not saying they're tanking (which suggests they're doing it for schedule/trade gain), he's saying they're resting starters to avoid reinjury and give them a full 9/10 months to recover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Yeah but that's just a smart move.

    I picked up what he said initially as a suggestion that they were tanking. That was Cavan King, I thought it was him again, my bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Anyone have any idea why the lads at The Irish NFL Show have split out into two shows? There’s now The Irish NFL Show and then Michael has Pro Football Ireland. Hard to get the time to listen to both pods when I’ve soccer and Gaelic ones to listen to as well!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,026 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It'll be interesting to see how that goes. A lot of his teammates are apparently not very happy with him. He has a lot of work to do to get them back on his side.

    Then there's the receivers, Elijah Moore praised White and he had 131 yards in three games with him compared to 28 the three weeks before that with Wilson.

    Garrett Wilson had 219 yards in his last three weeks with Wilson and 335 in the three weeks with White.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Nice for the coaches to get him back out there to see if he has learned anything without the locker room getting annoyed at them given they can hardly stick White out there against doctor's orders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,026 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Franco Harris the HOF RB of the Pittsburgh steelers and the player who scored the TD from the immaculate reception whose 50th anniversary is this Friday had died at the age of 72.

    Any interview I’ve seen of his, he came across as a very nice guy who didn’t seem fed up with him being defined by one play. It’s a play that can be said launched a dynasty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,026 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So the commanders are going back with Wentz at QB. I think eagle and colts fans can tell you why that most likely won’t end well.

    And I see derek carr is being benched in Las Vegas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Carr looks gone then. The window for them to find a trade is very narrow before a bunch more money becomes guaranteed - right after the Super Bowl.

    Will be interesting whether they'll be able to find a partner in that small window, one that Carr will waive his no trade clause for. Might end up just getting cut.

    Adams will then be in a weird spot having left to play for Carr (one reason he gave anyway).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,026 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well his guaranteed money is finished but I didn’t think they’d go this way as I think he’s a good QB if he could have stability in coaching. I saw a stat that he’s head 7 HCs in 9 years or maybe it’s coordinators but bar a few that’s not a good situation to he in.

    I also saw that Russell Wilson has his own office and his team have keys to the broncos facility. I’m sure Russell Wilson is a nice guy but it feels at times he’s as real as a false ceiling in public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Carr has had seven head coaches. I agree that he's a decent QB with a good head on his shoulders and if he goes I'd expect to see him find a nice contract and starting job elsewhere.

    Somebody mentioned Devante Adams earlier. Carr being there was a huge reason he signed with them, they are great friends and played together in college at Fresno State.

    Imo this isn't the year to be drafting a QB either if that's the plan, and McDaniels has always been a believer of building through the draft.

    Next year, '24, is a stacked QB class. The fact that Bryce Young is considered by most as the top QB in the '23 class says it all really. I don't think Young will be successful in the NFL. Personally the only one I'd consider in this class is Michael Penix.

    You are basically giving up $4 million extra against the cap to keep Carr through '23. That's not a huge penalty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    His guaranteed money isn't finished if they don't get rid of him quickly in the offseason. Like many contracts these days there are set points in the offseason where new guarantees kick in for the following year or even the years after in certain cases.

    With Carr his 2023 salary and $7.5M of his 2024 salary become fully guaranteed three days after the Super Bowl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Where are you getting $4m from?

    If they trade or cut him before the new guarantees kick in it will cost them only around $6m, but if they keep Carr through '23 it is going to cost more than $40m. It isn't like their owner is cash rich to keep a QB on that salary if they don't see a future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I must have it wrong. I understand they'll have to pay him for the season but the cap hit the season after is very small as far as I'm aware. I think they should pay him next season and then do whatever business they want to do after that. Maybe there's something that kicks in if he's there next year that I'm unaware of?

    The reason I'm saying they should keep.him for another year is my opinion that drafting a QB in '23 is a bad move. I don't think Young or Stroud are worth the risk with high picks, they might work out but I think it's more unlikely than likely that they will. '24 is a great class, there's four guys in that class that I'd have above Stroud and Young and another four that I'd have at their level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Not sure on the cap but benching him feels like they want him healthy for a trade. Whether or not the go with a bridge QB or get a young QB this year is a different story. Carr hasn't had his best year but is unquestionably better than Stidham and has left the team to not be a distraction so isn't even on the bench. That isn't trying to put your best team on the field.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,204 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    The Commanders could be a great fit for Carr (ownership issues aside). Two good WR's in McLaurin and Dotson, good RB group, a solid TE in Thomas and a potentially excellent defence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,541 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Yeah a good shout. If Brady retires the Bucs would be another nice landing spot. The Saints don't have anyone either, actually the whole NFC South could do with an upgrade at the position. Then you've got the Colts, the Texans and the Titans who could all do with signing someone.

    There's lots of openings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    There is probably up to a dozen teams looking for a QB1 this offseason so Carr is pretty much guaranteed a starting job somewhere, he has a no trade clause so will have a lot of leverage and a big say on where he lands.

    Jets are another team with a playoff roster but no QB1



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  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    Scary stuff as the incident looked fairly innocuous. I won't post the incident but widely available on Twitter.



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