The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

This man has to be trolling.

I can't believe they let Roquan Smith go. He's only 25, he's a superstar. You might be in rebuild mode but you should be holding onto a great young player.

Wrong thread.

Roquan hasn't even been made 1st team AP in his career yet, which is bullsh*t, but there's no way he was going from being disrespected every year by those guys to getting DPOY this year.

As for tackles, I'm not bothered if someone tackles a RB when they've already picked up 10 yards. It's not a good stat to base opinions on. If you watch the games and not the box score you can see how poor he has been in multiple games this season. Some weeks he looks like the best LB in football and then another week he is completely invisible like he was on Sunday. He has been awful in coverage for example.

He's the WILL in Eberflus' scheme. If you want to be paid at a non-premium position the way he did you have to play lights out every week and change games. You can't have up & down performances and expect a market setting $20m per year contract. We need 2-3 WRs, a RT, possibly a LT, a 3 tech and pass rushers. All of those are far more important than a weakside LB so he was never getting the contract he wanted in Chicago.

First, I refuse to believe anyone who is not a Bears fan has sat through all of our games considering how bad the first 4/5 were.

Second, it's obvious didn't watch the Packers, Giants or Vikings games if you think he was fantastic. Even the most loyal Roquan Smith fan would admit he has had multiple rough games this year.

This is why you shouldn't base arguments off of PFR statistics. For example, on paper it looks like he had an okay time in the Packer game with 11 total tackles, but that doesn't mention most of them were after a 5-10 yard run or how Rodgers once again picked on him in coverage with Cobb like he does every single time the Packers play us.

Trade deadline day. always great fun to see where your fantasy players have gone to. So far....

• TJ Hockensen to Detroit Lions
• Irv Smith Jr to IR
• Chase Claypool to Chicago Bears
• Jeff Wilson and Bradley Chubb to Miami Dolphins
• Chase Edmonds to Denver Broncos

Reich sacked but it should have been Ballard first or else both of them. Ballard has made a mess of the roster in a way that stinks of thinking he's smarter than everyone else. Given the soft ride he gets from many in the media I presume he is very open door to many of them.

Lol

• Eric Allen, cornerback
• Jared Allen, defensive end
• Willie Anderson, offensive tackle
• Ronde Barber, cornerback
• Anquan Boldin, wide receiver
• Henry Ellard, wide receiver
• Jahri Evans, offensive guard
• London Fletcher, linebacker
• Dwight Freeney, defensive end
• James Harrison, linebacker
• Rodney Harrison, safety
• Devin Hester, kick returner/wide receiver
• Torry Holt, wide receiver
• Andre Johnson, wide receiver
• Albert Lewis, cornerback
• Robert Mathis, defensive end/linebacker
• Darrelle Revis, cornerback
• Steve Smith Sr., wide receiver
• Fred Taylor, running back
• Joe Thomas, offensive tackle
• Zach Thomas, linebacker
• Hines Ward, wide receiver
• DeMarcus Ware, linebacker/defensive end
• Ricky Watters, running back
• Reggie Wayne, wide receiver
• Vince Wilfork, defensive tackle
• Patrick Willis, linebacker
• Darren Woodson, safety

These are the 28 modern era semi finalists for the 2023 PFHOF and damn it to try and get names out of that will be a challenge, because there’s way more than five players there that you can say “That’s a sure fire HOFer.”

If Hester is overlooked again I give up entirely on the whole farcical process.

That's a ridic list for HoF.

Out of them, and I'm trying to think how they think, I'd reduce the list to

Jared Allen, Ronde Barber, Dwight Freeney, James Harrison, Rodney Harrison, Andre Johnson, Darelle Revis, Steve Smith, Joe Thomas, DeMarcus Ware, Reggie Wayne and Vince Wilfork.

My second pick off the list would be Patrick Willis but they are going to penalise him for quite some time due to him retiring so young.

Joe Thomas was considered, and was, the best left tackle in football for most of his career, he's automatic. James Harrison won defensive player of the year so he's automatic I'd imagine, Jared Allen was considered out on his own for a few years and he's been waiting to get it so I think he'll get in. Revis Island was what they called Darelle's side of the field because nobody would throw there so he'll get in I think.

The last spot if I had to guess it's between Steve Smith, Vince Wilfork and Dwight Freeney.

With Stafford my question would be more whether he ever plays again. That injury is serious and his wife has been vocal about him taking too much abuse. They don't have much ammo to improve their team going into next season. Could see a number of Rams players and staff retire

You think Stafford retires?

I think there's a chance, given it's a neck injury, but I don't think he does it just because he has the ring.

Out of those HOF theres a few clear calls, Revis Island, Joe Thomas for 2, but I hope big Vince gets in. He was probably the best nose tackle I've ever seen play. As much as Aaron Donald is a DE/DT and a generational talent, Vince Wilfork was a great NT/DT hybrid, a run stuffing space eater that could also not only not be a liability on passing downs but actuially contribute too. Probably my favorite all time defensive player, not many others come to mind.

My 5 for what it's worth:

Vince Wilfork, Darelle Revis, James Harrison, Demarcus Ware and (he should be in as one of the most exciting space players there's been) Devin Hester.