What are your thoughts on the fertiliser price s for 2022

Talking to my merchant yesterday. He is getting indications that the wholesale price of fert will fall in the spring. He thinks that the importers will be able to buy stock at a good reduction on current prices, but because they have already forward bought supplies/have current stock at a higher price, the price they pass on to the merchants will be an average of the two so to speak. So we will see a price reduction but not the full reduction being passed on.... He feels that there will be no shortage of supply.

So I am going to wait til Feb and see what prices are looking like them.

Doubt Eamon would be too enthusiastic

Better to be looking at it than looking for it

How much was it in the last few months of this year?

Kerry were 1060 for urea 46% from sept /oct/nov. and were pushing to sell it and actually sold a share ,typical of them really

Bought in August for 1050...was hoping it wouldn't come...It did.

10-10-20, 18-6-12 in the yard bought at €850 last July.

27-2.5-5 bought same time at €830.

I bought no CAN or urea.

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Big difference in the price to treat slurry between those products though.

As Ginger says though there's probably p,k coming in at that price. The more varied biology in the mix will turn soil to neutral pH anyway and any lime looked for won't be because of pH requirements but for Calcium:Magnesium balancing and possibly just to add a rockdust element to feed biology and get N that way.

How many times can you get Say my name in a post?🤔

I spread the sea shell over the whole farm. It was recommended not to spread lime after for three years. But being me. I went again with two bags (100 kgs) of gran lime in November and 50kgs of burnt lime recently. More so a gut feeling with the wet weather and it has boosted growth. And thinking with the recommendation not to spread lime. It'd be tons per acre not recommended over 150kg per acre. I'll know more really on all the above after soil tests are completed before mid January.

I made jadam microbial solution. Made from seawater, boiled potatoes, deciduous forest soil. Where it was sprayed on there was a growth difference over not. I added it to the slurry tanks too. But it led to the tanks pushing the slurry up through the slats and thickened the slurry. Improved the fertiliser value but this is only through visual anecdotal evidence not lab tested.

I have a brix meter. But I'm not tied to it. Only when if the notion takes me.

You can use the LAB with the seaweed in an ibc tank. Just rinse the seaweed a bit before use and maybe add a bit of molasses and then put one of those brewing one way water valves on the lid of the tank to prevent gas build up. You can use that brew any way you want after. Add to slurry tank or spray on.

Yeah, not sure why I tagged you 3 times…

I got some of those fermentation locks - and I used the LAB as you described above. Made some hydrolysate with fish, and some with old soya bean and nettles…

I didn’t spread much of it. Hard to know if it made a lot of difference to be honest in the one field that got some. I suppose the field overall looks a bit healthier maybe…

Not saying it is. But if the ground is coming from a low base of fertility and biological activity, any applications won't give you that wow factor. Tbh there is no wow factor in all this anyway. It is all culminative though.

Not blowing my own trumpet. But my own grass is as green as can be. Across the road a neighbours sward reseeded 2020 is going yellow. They'd be as conventional as can be. Probably grew more grass than me this year though with more fert applied.

Where the likes of you and those treatments will blow conventional out of the water is in soil testing. You will build p and k and bring up your pH. You'll build Soil Organic Matter (SOM) or for the money minded CARBON. Which in turn will hold onto more soil nitrate. And that carbon means more drought resistance if it ever is a worry.

Ground will show greater water infiltration rates too. So less run off. Better trafficability.