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GAA Infastructure

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Pitch is too small. You could knock some terraces but then you would be asking Limerick to more than half their capacity once those terraces were gone. You would want a very effective net too given the proximity to the road and houses. The goals would be right up on the edge of the boundary wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    PuC had to be done in one go I think as the old stadium was one unit. You couldn't just knock a stand here and there.

    It was also a kip and I have no problem with such a big county and city getting a big high end stadium.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I agree 100%.

    Do Limerick, Cork and Galway really need 3 stadia for Soccer, Rugby, Gaa.

    Dundalk FC need new stadium and the GAA are building one, could they not share?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    These stadia are only used a couple of hours a week at best, most likely less than that even.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    I get that there are a lot of things happening there - its just that not many of those things involve the need for an 80000 seat stadium.

    Am I making a point? Not sure.....that its under utilised maybe. But then it does belong to GAA and they can do with it what they wish.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Hard to judge that one - but, very few towns of similar size in Britain would have a stadium that large.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Treaty can't fill Markets Field so the idea they can share with the other 2 is laughable.

    If the GAA went with PuC as the full time Munster final venue like Croke Park is then Limerick and Munster could share a 30k stadium.

    In Cork though having 1 stadium instead of Turners, Musgrave and Ui Rinn would be a good idea maybe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I'm pretty sure Croke Park pays for itself whether that's through full capacity games or not I don't see why it matters it's no white elephant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    A lot of premier league grounds only get used 19 times in any season. Are they all white elephants?


    croke park would get used between 30-40 times I’d guess at.


    i think your point is redundant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    The conference and events rooms ie the corporate rooms on match days are used for events pretty much every day

    Not at all true to say used for a few hours at best



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Well I'd beg to differ - a premier league ground will be used 19 times for the league, will be used for FA cup, for Carabao Cup, for European competition, for friendlies. That brings it to more like 30 or 35 times. But you knew that.

    Moreover - when there is a game at at premier league ground, it sells out. Tickets are hard to get.

    Not the case at CP. As mentioned earlier, how many of the games at CP see the upper level going on sale. Camogie semifinals got I think 6000, hard to believe when the mighty county of Cork was playing. And a double header too.

    A more valid comparison I suppose is Wembley, or the rugby grounds, Twickenham etc....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    But what really is your point? The best solution to the problem you have presented is to build another 40k stadium somewhere in Leinster. This will cost around 250 million or something. We still need a 80k stadium for the big big matches and the concerts and to host things like the 2028 euro bid so I’m lost as to what you want to happen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    30 to 35 is only for a very few teams who would be in Europe and go deep into all the cups. But I agree it's a bad comparison and your ones are much better.

    On the joined up thinking it's worth noting that the original National stadium plans were welcomed by the GAA and it was the rugby who had just built a big new stand had said no. Rugby and soccer not being what they are now didn't have as much interest as the GAA with a crumbling Croke Park so the GAA instead concentrated on the plan that became the stadium we now have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    To be honest, my biggest gripe with Croke Park, and this might sound a bit stupid..... the inner city of Dublin is (in my opinion) the most deprived part of the entire country and has been for decades. And tied to that, there are little or no sports facilities. Its the only part of Dublin that has no GAA club / no GAA facilities. And yet right in the middle of it (ok, on the edge of it) is this absolutely pristine pitch that is barely being touched for 6 months of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The lack of GAA clubs in the inner city has nothing to do with Croke Park.

    The reasons would involve a conversation about demographics and inner city life in many major cities not just Dublin that would go way beyond the topic of this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    well...

    I never said the lack of GAA clubs was because of Croke Park.

    I said there are no GAA facilities available to the local community and there is also a pristine pitch which is not being used from August through to Feb. Thats a fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Na Fianna is a 10min drive/cycle and a 25min walk from Croke Park so honestly it sounds like you are talking absolute sht.

    St. Brendan's the same distance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    But Croke Park isnt where they should be playing. There is council pitches relatively near by. Fairview park has GAA pitches does it not?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Like everyone else I'm struggling to understand your point. Who are the local GAA community that are being denied a pitch? A quick glance at Google maps shows GAA pitches at Fairview, Grangegorman and Drumcondra; all only a kilometer or 2 from Croke Park.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Basically he tried to pull the "Croke Park is never full" thing and got shot down so now is trying to dig up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    I made a seperate point.

    Which is that Dublin inner city is one of the most socially and economically deprived parts of Ireland.

    There are no GAA clubs there.

    At the same time, this incredible facility - the HQ of GAA - is located in an area where there is no club and no local facilities.

    Inner City is Sean McDermott St, Sherriff St, Mountjoy Sq, Gardiner St, Summerhill, Ballybough.

    Fairview Park is outside of this area, as is Grangegorman - also neither is a club pitch.

    You dont have to agree but no need to be so sneery about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Exact same for the south inner city innit? Worst I’d say in terms of GAA clubs near the city.


    just think your points deserve to be in the Dublin GAA thread and no idea how they relate to croke park being under used or under attended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    But he was using it as a reason Croke Park is a failure which is what is BS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Its just an inner city thing it's nothing to do with Dublin. I can't think of inner city clubs of any field sport of any city I have lived in or am familiar with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,622 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    There is a club Na Fianna so stop lying.

    A 10min drive or cycle is very very much "in the area" in a big city.

    Post edited by breezy1985 on


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    Think everybody is in agreement for Munster anyway that Kerry can jog on looking for 70+ million

    lower the price of their ticket’s and send them an hour up the road to Limerick or cork



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Clare and Limerick should share the Gaelic Grounds . Thats the most obvious thing in the world. Its smack bang in the middle of Limerick and Clares hurling areas. Killarney is not on but this is Ireland so Killarney will be developed and it ll break the 100million. Mark my words.

    Here the inner city is traditionally soccer in nearly all our cities. Cork and Waterford have a decent inner city GAA footprint. Dublin Limerick dont . The inner city in limerick used to hurl but its only Gearoid Hegarty now and about 9 junior soccer powerhouses and a few AIL rugby clubs. That's the innercity now. Na Piarsaigh is not innercity,monaleen is not innercity. ..the Dempseys of Na Piarsaigh are farmers for gods sake. Dublin inner city don't do gaa either. You've Kevin's in the South innercity and nothing around Sherriff Street,Gardner Sherrard Street in the North inner city. Lots of top quality junior soccer clubs

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    He's right about Dublin GAA having very little presence in the inner city "between the canals".

    Only two inter county players produced from there in 50 years. Paddy Cullen and Ger Brennan.

    Lots of soccer players come the north inner city though - most recently Troy Parrot and Wes.

    I don't think Croke Park Stadium has anything to do with this. It's up to Dublin GAA and local clubs



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    The GAA will provide pitches on the Clonliffe College lands they bought so we wont have to be concerned about the lack of pitches around CP.

    In reality, no matter where you live in Dublin city, you are no more than 30 minutes from a GAA pitch. From O'Connell Bridge, the following are about 3km away; St Brendans at Grangegorman, Na Fianna, St Vincent's, St. Joseph's OCB at Fairview Park, Clanna Gael Irishtown, Portobello GAA at Cathal Brugha Barracks, Templeogue Synge St. at Dolphin Park, Good Counsel. Widen the radius a little and you could add another rake. I doubt many cities have so many facilities so central, particularly given the size of pitch required for GAA.

    On CP, it's proximity to the city centre is one of the great things about it. Many other large stadiums are located outside cities and the area around the stadium is dead on matchdays.

    Not really sure what's the point of this conversation, seems like some are just looking for something to complain about.



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