F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

lol

F1 social media is already an absolute cesspit as it is, can only imagine how bad it will be after that announcement

Nearly $2 million over the cap seems very high. The fine won't matter, 10% reduction in aero testing might have some impact.

I feel the impact should have been more severe here...

Can other teams appeal this type of decision?

I can see other teams, warranted or not, wanting (1)to know more about how they breached , (2) a full break down of initial findings and final agreement and (3) potentially a bigger punishment - given they have been saying half a million more in budget would have been significant in their own dev programs.

Waiting to see the full details, but apparently if a tax credit has been correctly applied, it would have resulted in a cap breach of about 400k pounds. Still not ideal but I suspect that will be Red Bull's defense.

Ah here it wasnt 400K and this is a load of red bullocks they over spent massively and it was adjusted down to 1.8 mill

"A statement by the FIA detailing Red Bull's errors said the team had "inaccurately excluded and/or adjusted costs amounting to a total of £5,607,000" in 2021.

The team's overspend breach of relevant costs adjusted by the FIA was £1,864,000.

This amounts to an understatement of accounts of nearly 5% and an adjusted overspend of 1.6%."

"Rival teams will have questions as to whether the punishment is appropriate, particularly over whether the fine will have any effect on a vastly wealthy global corporation, and also as to why the amounts published are different from those that were doing the rounds of the F1 paddock at last weekend's US Grand Prix.

They will also likely point out that the areas of the overspend are irrelevant because they, too, could have chosen to spend more in such areas, but that would have meant spending less on engineering and car design."

This stinks of red bull knowing exactly what they were doing and getting away with it too by the looks of the penalty as the 10% reduction doesnt apply all year and the fine doesnt come out of their budget.

For a team that on multiple occasions Horner has said were the last to jump on the development of the new car they sure came out swinging must of been all the good food the overspent on in the catering department...

First iteration of the rules and regs. Bound to be holes in it.

Might be a bit of confusion on the numbers.

They submitted accounts of £114.3m about £3.7m under the £118m cap.

Adjustments required of £5.6m leaving them at £119.9m, £1.9m over the cap.

Acknowledging that if the above was accounted for correctly and appropriate accounting for tax credits had been done, they would have been £0.4m over budget, ie £118.4m v £118.0m.

There’s a list on the FIA statement of adjustments made but doesn’t put values against each. Catering is the first one named but it names numerous others including multiple relating to people costs (bonus & employer’s social security) and more.

Well why were the FIA clarifying things in June 2022 so?

Not in the least bit suprised by that tripe

Which is the big thing when it comes to points deductions

Exactly.

If RB had tried to mislead the FIA, then throw the book at them. But they did not attempt to do that.

Whats the point of a cost cap if it doesn't include billions spent on engine development etc, or driver salaries etc

It's pointless unless teams aren't able to spend large sums of money elsewhere to gain performance on the track.