F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

Thank feck for the diesel emissions scandal.

It kept VW and Audi away from F1 for the best part of a decade.

Maybe it would have been a good thing do with Mercedes dominance as they Audi might have been competitive from the off or they could have been another Honda and been a disaster.

So maybe all this time with them not there and them seeing what Honda went through is good.

Yup that much I knew. Porsche are now rumoured to be buying into Williams.

What's the Andretti-Ford story? Is it something to do with haas?

No Mention of Haas , German sports site reporting it . But Andretti has been linked with everyone to get in . I just liked the sound of the Ford one .

"Ford/Andretti hookup talks underway

Today sport1.de is reporting that there are talks taking place that would see an all American hookup between the Andretti Global Motorsports and Ford to enter Formula One together.

This week Mario Andretti confirmed his group are well under way with their development plans for a car to join F1 in 2024 and they are merely awaiting the green light from the FIA.

TJ13: FIA favour Andretti 2024 F1 application

However, the Andretti/Ford alliance would only come into full effect in 2026 and Andretti would require an interim F1 power unit partner for the two seasons prior to 2026."

https://thejudge13.com/2022/10/16/ford-and-andretti-hookup-for-f1-entry/

The last Ford victory in F1 was with Jordan at the crazy 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix. Over 19 years ago.

I can't decide if every post from this guy is trolling or not...

Aren't Ford heading towards fully electric now as a company anyway?

Yes they are. It would make more sense for them to get into Formula E than Formula 1.

lol

F1 social media is already an absolute cesspit as it is, can only imagine how bad it will be after that announcement

Nearly $2 million over the cap seems very high. The fine won't matter, 10% reduction in aero testing might have some impact.

I feel the impact should have been more severe here...

Can other teams appeal this type of decision?

I can see other teams, warranted or not, wanting (1)to know more about how they breached , (2) a full break down of initial findings and final agreement and (3) potentially a bigger punishment - given they have been saying half a million more in budget would have been significant in their own dev programs.

Waiting to see the full details, but apparently if a tax credit has been correctly applied, it would have resulted in a cap breach of about 400k pounds. Still not ideal but I suspect that will be Red Bull's defense.

Ah here it wasnt 400K and this is a load of red bullocks they over spent massively and it was adjusted down to 1.8 mill

"A statement by the FIA detailing Red Bull's errors said the team had "inaccurately excluded and/or adjusted costs amounting to a total of £5,607,000" in 2021.

The team's overspend breach of relevant costs adjusted by the FIA was £1,864,000.

This amounts to an understatement of accounts of nearly 5% and an adjusted overspend of 1.6%."

"Rival teams will have questions as to whether the punishment is appropriate, particularly over whether the fine will have any effect on a vastly wealthy global corporation, and also as to why the amounts published are different from those that were doing the rounds of the F1 paddock at last weekend's US Grand Prix.

They will also likely point out that the areas of the overspend are irrelevant because they, too, could have chosen to spend more in such areas, but that would have meant spending less on engineering and car design."

This stinks of red bull knowing exactly what they were doing and getting away with it too by the looks of the penalty as the 10% reduction doesnt apply all year and the fine doesnt come out of their budget.

For a team that on multiple occasions Horner has said were the last to jump on the development of the new car they sure came out swinging must of been all the good food the overspent on in the catering department...

First iteration of the rules and regs. Bound to be holes in it.