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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,880 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Do they actually believe what they are saying ,or is it just their purpose to convince people that what they are saying is true.

    That there is not a single incident of a Russian killing an Ukrainian civilian, while Ukraine is slaughtering Russian people throughout Ukraine. Are they actually brainwashed, or do they know the truth, but want to convince the viewers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,638 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    That should change absolutely sweet FA.

    But all the same, what a pencil-dicked little tw@tbag Putin is. Hope he meets a bullet soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Like the "law" there the past 8 months was normal.

    Conscription next I imagine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,638 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    You do talk some shyt.

    The reason the likes of China, Russia, Iran, Myanmar and many more should be ignored, is because THEY ROUTINELY MURDER THEIR OWN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY MINORITIES!!

    This has got f**k all to do with political philosophy. If the people of a particular Country are happy to accept autocracy of one sort or another, without rising up, thats their own business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Israeli Minister of Defence.


    Disappointing but not surprising.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Madagascar's President has fired his Foreign Minister because he voted in favour of the UN resolution condemning the Russian invasion of Ukraine last week. Local media is reporting he's also being accused of "treason" for doing so.


    When asked what he'd like to with the yes vote, the President replied "I'd like to move it, move it".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,319 ✭✭✭Guffy


    I would assume it would make it more difficult to cross the river, ie. Easier to defend the left bank



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Field east


    Run forest run is correct , in theory, if the decision is supported by a majority re total population of countries which voted to support Russia . BUT :-.

    (1) why did 99.99 % + of those who left Ukr and Ru volunteer ally and as refugees DID NOT go to any of the countries Shiah sided with Ru on the UN vote.

    (2) what percentage of Russian imports and exports are to and from countries which supported the UN resolution. I would guess a very high percentage..


    if your majority - populationwise - that voted against the motion and their GDPs’ are very low,very low exports , low life expectancies, etc then what’s the point you are trying to make out that these countries is where ‘the power’ is OR WHAtEVER POINT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭paul71


    If there are any Dutch, Chechan, Bosnian, or Georgians in the the international brigade they would love a chance to grab that utter scumbag. Not many people can claim to murdered and tortured in as many countries as that vile specimen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Seeing anecdotal reports on twitter that 5 cruise missiles targeting Kyiv were shot down this afternoon. Great result for the air defence if true especially given the depleting numbers of those cruise missiles.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    In my opinion this is one of the most chilling recent posts on this thread. If the US loses its resolve we are all in trouble. Vitally important that Ukraine does not become a partisan issue like mask wearing or vaccines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I'd take a Ford ranger/f150 over a hummer in a gun fight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Heraclius


    Yeah, I think that really made me feel depressed about Ukraine's prospects. Even if they regain territory now they could just lose it next year if the US effectively abandons them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    More bs the governments of those countries who are up to their necks in special loans from one two other countries made a decision,not based off disagreeing with the invasion,

    Did you happen to canvas the billions of individuals to see how exactly they felt ,

    No ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Looks like Russia is preparing to blow the dam and drown the soldiers in the way


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    It's not good. edit: One ray of hope there is that this seems to be driven quite hard by a powerful group of politicians in the Republican party combined with media allies, who seem to have actually become 21st century version of the German American Bund when it comes to Russia and Putin.

    It is not popular or organic and a reflection of public opinion of Ukraine invasion/support for Ukraine in the US (imo) but, like most countries, I believe foreign policy has very little effect on how American's actually vote (or whether they bother to vote at all) unless its having some clear effect on them and is hitting close to home. It (invasion of Ukraine) doesn't have that for the US/US voters the way it does in Europe.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    I’m sure there are bots working overtime as we speak convincing Americans that aid to Ukraine would be better spent in America and that Europeans should pay for the war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    I don't think they'd be abandoned. The Land Lease bill is the law of the land so they should be able to get heavy weaponry and vehicles through that mechanism.

    I'm not sure if that covers expendables though, such as munitions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    After the recent Hurricane in Florida I saw huge amounts of posts along the lines of "We should be spending the money we send to Ukraine on the victims in Florida instead". It was the first time that I saw a lot of people complaining about the Ukraine money and it was all very sudden and all MAGA type accounts.

    I'd love to see some analysis on where that messaging originated.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭paul71


    Nobody is proposing that non democratic countries get no vote at the UN.


    What people are saying is that you stop pretending to be a fool and acknowledge what you know to be true. The people of non democratic governments are not represented by their governments so the votes of those governments do not represent the opinions of their populations.


    That is self evident and you chose to ignore it. Therefore you are either pretending to be a fool/are a fool/ or take the rest of us to be fools.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    What happens to the nuclear power plant if that dam is blown up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Putler must have shares in a Russian brides website!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    I cannot envisage the Russians giving up Kherson to Ukraine without doing something nasty to it on the way out. The argument against them blowing the dam was that it would negatively affect the water supply to Crimea. However, the Russians probably assume that the Ukrainians are going to switch that off anyway so it's going to be gone either way.

    Blowing the dam might also wash away evidence of war crimes that they have no doubt carried out. All those basement torture chambers and shallow graves that have been found in pretty much every other location they have occupied.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I'd be a Toyota Landcruiser man myself, especially the ones with the V8 engine fitted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    He must put those share certificates alongside those for window glazing companies 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    Good question. I would imagine that that would depend on how much the water levels drop in the Dnipro river adjacent to it and if their cooling systems can continue to operate efficiently at those river levels.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    We have that here in Ireland too a growing chorus of opinion that Ukrainians are a burden on us. I always counter with the scattered Irish who were welcomed in countries around the world when our government was using emigration as a safety valve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    they're fine while the Dems hold the WH, the President can serve up quite a bit of aid even without the support of Congress



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  • Posts: 276 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well a number of things could happen in theory, most of which I don't think anyone in their right mind would really want to test out.

    They're all VVER power plants, which are a Soviet design of a fairly normal pressurised water plant, similar to those used in the US, France, etc. They're nothing particularly unusual, and are in pretty good condition, with modern control systems and so on, as Ukraine had done a lot of work on both modernising and keeping them up to code, working with companies like Westinghouse and Areva etc. There are similar plants used in Finland for example.

    So, the comparisons with Chernobyl, which was a totally different type of reactor and a very flawed design, don't really add up.

    However, there are still issues with pushing any nuclear power plant to extreme conditions and to and beyond their design limits. There won't be any kind of massive explosion, well at least that's very unlikely, and the cores and essential systems are inside the primary containment, which is a huge reenforced concrete and steel building, capable of withstanding a missile strike or an aircraft crash, but it doesn't mean that you can't have something go seriously wrong that's not been planned for. If you look at Fukushima for example, what happened there shouldn't have been possible.

    Best case scenario is it just shuts down and goes into a safe state. Water moderated reactors simply shut down when they lose their coolant - you can have some issues with on-going residual heat and so on, but it's nothing at all like what can happen at a graphite moderated reactor like Chernobyl. The core literally went on fire, the carbon acting as a fuel, in the open air there!

    Worst case scenarios are numerous, but fairly unlikely. Nothing's on the scale of Chernobyl though. The design of that plant is too complicated to go into here, but it's just a totally different scenario. Look up RMBK on wikipedia, and there's a fairly good description of what was wrong with it.

    The biggest risk is probably someone dropping a missile on an unprotected structure that contains cold/cooling stored fuel rods, as that would potentially scatter stuff everywhere or if there's a significant fire in one of those - rising smoke particles etc.

    I'd just add that there are a LOT of heavy industrial / heavy chemical plants around Ukraine which are also an enormous environmental threat and several of them have been bombed to bits. There's a huge local environmental impact of all of this, particularly where big infrastructure is hit - even just things like scattering asbestos all over the place from power plants, insulation of old buildings etc and that's before you even start getting into things like chemical plants, refineries etc etc.

    To describe this as a mess is a gross understatement - it'll take decades to clean up.



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