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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Doesn't mean Israel won't hit iran , something they have been steadily building towards..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭maebee


    Imagine being a world Super Power and there are 195 countries in the world and only 2 of these 195 countries support you - Iran and North Korea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Lets be honest there isn’t long left for mankind.


    Just unleash everything onto Russia and be done with it.


    At least it means we didn’t let another Nazi regime do what they liked until it was too late.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    spoken like Russell Casse a true hero in Independence Day

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,211 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yes, but it's right hand drive so it's a donation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,211 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It would be just like old times, though some might be a bit young to remember.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Mad to think Randy Quaid was not method acting in that film.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    If they bomb Iran, there's going to be a cluster feck.

    And if Saudi are out of sorts with the west over oil etc and getting on with Russia it could create an allegiance between the Shia and Sunni countries. I know they have been wary of each other due to difference between Muhammad's family tradition and caliphs etc

    I've read a lot of Robert Fisks books and have an idea about the factions in the middle east "The great war of civilization" is an interesting read about all the dynamics in the middle east.

    Instead of keeping them all apart, by antagonizing them could unite them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    Wait until the usual suspects on here start quoting tweets from some no mark on Twitter about an Iranian invasion being imminent, then we can be absolutely sure it won't be happening. 🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    While bombing Iran won't achieve much (and let's be honest, Israel will do whatever it wants here), the answer should be massive sanctions while they supply russia and NATO upping the ante with equipment supplies to Ukraine and giving them the previous off the table stuff, possibly going as far as creating a no fly zone.

    However, the risk that bombing Iran would "unite the factions" is an uneducated fever dream, the others would just stand back with popcorn, watch and cheer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    And yet most of the world's population didn't support the recent UN resolution condemning Russia.

    Trade between Russia and the BRICS nations is soaring since the war began - particularly with India and China, two major players on the world stage. Turkey seems ready to do business with Russia on a new gas hub proposal. And of course, Turkey have been one of the more proactive nations in attempting to broker peace in this conflict. They recognise that the western approach of creating isolated pariah states with heavy sanctions, doesn't really bring about the desired results. The attempts to isolate Russia are failing, and actually backfiring quite badly on the west.

    There is a much bigger game being played here, than just what is happening in Ukraine. A broader tussle for control of key resources, and a greater diversification of power. Food, energy and even the global financial system are at play. On the one hand, it is a very worrying time for the world. On the other hand, it is fascinating to see some big global gears moving and tectonic plates shifting. We could have a dramatically different looking world, after the dust settles on this conflict.




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Yeah. The UK government is about to collapse. So they want to make Ukraine a central issue to distract their population. Make it seem like they and the US are peers or near peers.

    If there was genuinely a need to consider any dramatic change in posture, the US would not need to consult Ben Wallace to come up with ideas. And to implement those ideas, it would be a matter for NATO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @Run Forest! Run And yet most of the world's population didn't support the recent UN resolution condemning Russia...

    That's only in your opinion.....

    Another faux claim



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    "The attempts to isolate Russia are failing, and actually backfiring quite badly on the west"

    How are they backfiring quite badly on the west? The Russian rhetoric of the toilet roll shortage in Europe or the fact we are all freezing at the moment because we have no Russian gas? Perhaps we have used up all the toilet roll to wrap up ourselves to keep warm?

    The likelihood is that any talks with China or India was going to happen one way or the other and are not simply a direct result of sanctions, or perhaps they are, but the West is more important to China and India than Russia will ever be and they are not going to forget that.

    As for "most of the world's population", what a load of rubbish, asides from the no votes (there were only 5 and no real surprises) an abstention is exactly that, an abstention from voting, it is not an abstention from condemning Russia or an indication of support or not for the Resolution.

    A nation can abstain for any number of reasons and they are often for political reasons of the regime rather than their populations support or otherwise of what they are voting on.

    That asides many of those who abstained aren't exactly utopians of the world order for democracy or human rights.

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  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I do enjoy the regular reporting from Bizarro World Run Forest Run "contributes". At minimum it's great to see how agitated they get by the 'non working' Russian sanctions. 🤣

    No matter how shít your day is at least you're not paid to write up complete bollocks and have to try to convince of its legitimacy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    Some chilling accounts from resident's of Izium released by the Human Rights Watch today:-

    "Survivors described being subjected to electric shock, waterboarding, severe beatings, threats at gunpoint, and being forced to hold stress positions for extended periods. They identified at least seven locations in the city, including two schools, where they said soldiers had detained and abused them"

    Sadly it is just the latest in a series of these types of reports and unfortunately many more to come I would think, the physiological effects of war will long out live the visual effect.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


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    And yet most of the world's population didn't support the recent UN resolution condemning Russia.

    Most of the world. Earlier:

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    Even "friends" like China, South Africa and India sat on the fence. Brazil the first letter in your BRICS alliance voted against. Argentina who are on the list to join BRICS also voted against Mother Russia. The only support came frrom one Russian vassal state, Syria, that bastion of peace and harmony, family run nutball mafia state North Korea and Nicaragua. Fine "friends" you have there. 👌

    Trade between Russia and the BRICS nations is soaring since the war began

    Yes "soaring" to the point where this small damp island in the Atlantic now has more of an export market than Russia, the largest nation on earth with all those resources and stronk leader. This wasn't the case this time last year. If that's soaring, Icarus would have never risked his wings melting. Then again you reckoned putin chose to pivot to the BRICS, rather than have that choice forced upon him. Remind me again how many pipelines ran to the West vs the East? How many Chinese or Indian factories were operating in Russia? Russians; redefining support, soaring and choice.

    particularly with India and China, two major players on the world stage.

    Both courted and continue to court Western economies and businesses and those Western imports/exports positively dwarf any trade with Russia. If tomorrow China and India dropped Western trade they'd be utterly screwed economically, if they dropped Russian trade they'd barely miss it. China's trade with Thailand alone is bigger. They'll play the game but they're not stupid. They both see Russia as a faded petrol station where they can get cheap fuel if they throw the owner a bone or two and by doing so hope to get more Western interest and investment as a counter. And always have.

    Turkey seems ready to do business with Russia on a new gas hub proposal. And of course, Turkey have been one of the more proactive nations in attempting to broker peace in this conflict. They recognise that the western approach of creating isolated pariah states with heavy sanctions, doesn't really bring about the desired results.

    Erdogan is playing both sides, much of it an attempt to keep the home crowd distracted from domestic issues, which are many. They're still important members of the boogyman NATO, even have US bases in Turkey, which you seem to want to ignore.

    The "desired result" is Mother Russia pulls her head in, stops acting like pricks in an imperial landgrab and fcuks off out of Ukraine.

    The attempts to isolate Russia are failing, and actually backfiring quite badly on the west.

    Annnnnd we're back to the same old tune of "sanctions are hurting you more than they're hurting Mother Russia". A tune so often played it's pretty clear who is hurting more.

    There is a much bigger game being played here, than just what is happening in Ukraine. A broader tussle for control of key resources, and a greater diversification of power. Food, energy and even the global financial system are at play. On the one hand, it is a very worrying time for the world. On the other hand, it is fascinating to see some big global gears moving and tectonic plates shifting. We could have a dramatically different looking world, after the dust settles on this conflict.

    Multipolar, something something, western hegemony, something something... Now what's Ritter or The Duran blogging today?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 TAFKA_hometruths_real


    I would imagine it was a case it's a meeting that they don't trust being conducted over video link.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Ardent


    There's something bleak and depressing about these state TV shows. It never ceases to amaze me how brainwashed or deliberately deceitful these panelists are. Any display of common sense or balance is shot down quickly and brutally. Really sad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    But we must negotiate with Putin and appease him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Stranger things have happened, when you mean the rest.

    Do you mean the rest of the middle east ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Turkey are trying to ride two horses at the same time and we all know what happens eventually when the horses diverge. Bad cess to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    NATO and Romania to hold a joint press conference later today at 1.15PM with Jens Stoltenberg and Romanian Prime minister Nicolae Ciucă.

    Probably nothing more than the usual and speaking of the eastern block defences, but also probably an update on Steadfast Noon I would imagine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Could be in relation to the deployment of addition of nato troops .

    Read an article last week were France said they would be deploying troops to Romania, Estonia Lithuania as part of nato reinforcement in the area.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,502 ✭✭✭zv2


    Right, but they target electrical facilities with the aim of crippling Ukraine. They are not much good militarily but against essential infrastructure they are lethal - unless they can be stopped.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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