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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I don't see any military value in targeting this building.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    Maybe he is. However, his personal life isn't really of much interest to me regarding this particular topic. He has stated on many occasions that he was the victim of a government smear campaign, and that the FBI promised to destroy his reputation if he didn't keep his mouth shut. And of course the FBI / CIA have never attempted to do anything like that to anyone before, right? Yeah, right...

    Perhaps there's some truth in that, or maybe it's BS. Who really knows? But if there is any truth in it, then not listening to him would be a big win for some very powerful people.

    Either way, I don't really see how these ad hominem attacks necessarily disqualify the man from giving his professional opinion?

    Meanwhile, we can see on this thread, certain people are fully prepared to throw around terminology and rhetoric that is peddled by some very unsavoury groups within this conflict. Groups that no decent person would/should be happy to stand behind - regardless of where you stand on this conflict. But because it's rhetoric coming from "their side", they hold their nose and consider it acceptable. Well, people are free to make that moral choice if they wish.

    So yes, I am prepared to hold my nose and listen to what this guy Ritter has to say. This doesn't necessarily mean I like the guy, or that I like what he might have gotten up to in his personal life. It also doesn't mean I take what he has to say, as wholesale truth either btw. He's qualified to give his professional analysis, so I am prepared to listen. That's pretty much it basically.

    Like I said, I'm not telling anyone what to believe or whom they should listen to. That's very much your choice and your free will. I will keep listening to as many varied opinions and voices as I can on this conflict. That's what makes the most sense to me. We're all wading through a river of propaganda around this conflict from all sides, so it's up to each individual to decide for themselves what information they think is relevant or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    Congratulations. Best of luck with the dancing.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭Deub


    I am shocked at this post. You are the one asking everyone to justify any claims they make with verifiable sources and here you are telling us what the future will be. Any source for this claim?



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  • Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Might as well ask Larry Murphy for his opinion while you’re at it



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You’re deluded. The guy said Russia has already won the war. Defend that comment.

    Only an idiot posts clearly (as in crystal) stupid stuff. You sir, are a time waster at best. But, here’s the thing NOBODY has read your dribble and thought ‘wait a minute…’



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Forget his personal life and political leanings allegiances etc, just take his military predictions and conclusions and going back before this Russian invasion too. He's almost never right and when he was right it's been after the fact. If he was a gambler at the race course bookies would love him.

    And yep propaganda abounds so let's look at the unvarnished facts:

    Russia invaded Ukraine saying they were a force against nazis and NATO threats.

    Ukraine was years if not a decade away from NATO or EU membership.

    Support for the hard right in Ukraine had fallen off a cliff and they couldn't even secure a single seat in their parliament. Are there nazis in Azov etc? Damned right there are, but they're hardly lacking in Mother Russia, that well known non imperialistic militaristic die for the motherland oligarchic feudal state...

    Russia tried to cut the head off the snake in Kyiv and failed. They took the southern coast after months of heavy fighting. They retreated in the north west and latterly have retreated in Donbas. They still don't have air superiority after all this time and the trickle of western advanced weapon systems are hurting them. The majority of Ukrainian weapon systems are outdated Russian kit.

    The mighty "million man" Russian army needs to mobilise and conscript where once they promised their people this wouldn't be required and some are suggesting more people have left than have been conscripted.

    To cover this mess they now claim they're fighting NATO, yet not a single NATO aircraft, tank, ship or actual ground forces has been set against them.

    If Russia hadn't started this war tens of thousands of men women and kids wouldn't be dead or crippled and millions wouldn't have been displaced.

    Beyond the war front Russia has increased the NATO border around them. The vast majority of world politics and economics is against them, with four nations for them(all bastions of freedom...) and a couple of dozen abstentions, including among their "friends". Economically they've been isolated to the degree that Ireland 1/30th of their size now has a bigger export economy. Their currency is almost entirely internal and monopoly money elsewhere with most so called "rouble transactions" running with dollars or euros behind them. They've been frozen out of the international leasing, insurance, shipping and investment streams for the foreseeable.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    In all this window dressing at least you are acknowledging it. You do trip at the final hurdle with a dose of both sides-ism. There aren't "two sides" to this. There weren't "two sides" to Hitler invading Poland. So the next time you read "Putin is bad but", pay very close attention to what comes after the "but". 99% of the time it's indirect validation of what Putin is doing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    "An intelligence assessment shared in recent days with Ukrainian and U.S. officials contends that Iran's armaments industry is preparing a first shipment of Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar missiles, two well-known Iranian short-range ballistic missiles" to Russia

    Not good.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That’s one way of looking at it, but also confirmation that Russia is running low, and Iran won’t have infinite missiles either.

    Spunking them against civilian infrastructure will only harden Ukrainian resolve NOT to fall under Russian control. These missiles cannot win a war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭jmreire


    If it was targeted by Ukraine, you can be sure it has a military value.....invaders using it for admin or something like that, unlike Russia, they don't waste expensive munitions, and especially on buildings they will need themselves later on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The fighting is going to go on for a lot longer than most people realise. It wouldn't surprise me if it was years until we saw an actual negotiation that ended this war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    Either way, I don't really see how these ad hominem attacks necessarily disqualify the man from giving his professional opinion?


    Sure, why don't we get Gary Glitter's opinion on the evolution of rock music or maybe we should ask Rolf Harris what he thinks of cartoons in the age of Tik-Tok! Maybe even give Bill Cosby a Netflix special to hear his latest material?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    A few things of note in this segment:

    • He disregards well documented mobilisation problems as a "handful of cases" and states that "the majority is working fine". When pressed about a specific case he implies that it could well be some kind of fake news
    • Still spins the "We could destroy Ukrainian infrastructure tomorrow but our President is being generous" fable
    • States that it's "good" that the Ukrainians are mounting an offensive in Kherson and is confident that thanks to mobilisation they will be able to defend it.
    • Says that the Ukrainians are mounting the offensive now, not because of the impending Winter but because of the upcoming elections in the USA
    • A couple of instances of straight up racism


    This is actually all very reassuring. If this guy reflects the typical intelligence within the Russian Armed Forces then they don't even know what they are doing wrong and why they are losing. If you don't acknowledge your mistakes then you will continue to make them.

    It's cute as well that he thinks that the average American mid-term voter cares about foreign policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    Seems like there's a hierarchy in the Russian forces. Those on the lowest rung, the prisoners, are sent to the front-lines. The mobilised are positioned in the secondary line and ordered to shoot the prisoners if they retreat. They in turn are in fear of being shot by the regular soldiers behind them, in the third line.

    Grim stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Russian war criminal and blogger Igor Girkin/Strelkov has apparently been drafted and is now in Ukraine somewhere. Last night various Ukrainians on twitter were talking about chipping in money for a bounty on his head (only if captured alive).

    Seems like the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (GUR) is now joining in:





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,514 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Mention of the midterm elections by the Russians and assorted Putin bots is downright bizarre. Biden will be President until January 2025 minimum....thinking the 2022 midterm results can somehow help Putin and the regime's war effort is completely off the wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭blackwave


    He's been very vocal in his criticism of the military lately, wonder is that is behind his "drafting". Would love to see him captured and brought to the hague for his role in MH17.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,886 ✭✭✭threeball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    That's one way to cut back on the cost to the State of keeping people in prison anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    I’m sure prisoners in Russia are very little/Zero cost to the state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Well whatever they cost, it reduces to zero if they are blown to bits in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Wonder that Belarus is playing at. More smoke and mirrors or something actually happening.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I think Luka is coming under immense pressure from his commander in chief to assist in his invasion,

    How long can he hold out is anyones guess but if putin doesn't get what he wants from luka he's has the forces in place to remove him ,it's a dangerous game



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If we went into a pub in any rural village and talked to the town drunks they’d be more coherent and tuned into reality than those two vile cretins:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,162 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If the people of Belarus fundamentally do not want to go to war, there's not really a lot that Luka or Putin can do about it. You can't throw everyone in jail for refusing their marching orders, and even if you try, you risk pushing the public well past the point of popular revolt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Under Davydov Ford, pi@ars are counterattacking...

    Lots of Ukrainian exasperation in the comments after yesterday's failed attack.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭homah_7ft


    In my opinion in the long term Belarus is a sideshow. Their military is way worse than Russia's and we see how they are performing. Some are implying that Russia will take over Belarus I believe. That would stretch them even more than they are already which would accelerate their demise.

    An interesting undercurrent is the action taking place on the Sumy frontline. I never see much reporting on the attacks by Ukraine across this border and feel that the Ukrainian military may know something that we don't.

    Looking at my very cloudy crystal ball I think we might see the Ukrainian's open up a third front towards Polohy.



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