Youths Rugby

Lsdrugbyfan · 21-07-2022 10:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119370073#Comment_119370073

So mostly schools players.

ljsulster · 23-07-2022 7:12am

Ulster u18 clubs 40-7 EIRA

dor843088 · 24-07-2022 5:30pm

Schools were humbled by the u18 clubs . Pandemic removed their advantage ? Obviously the writing has been on the wall for the schools for a while but bohe pandemic has probably accelerated the process. Haven't produced a half back in 20 years and lions absent on schools players. The future is clubs

Lost Ormond · 24-07-2022 7:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119381239#Comment_119381239

Which province? When? I wouldnt saying writing has been on wall for schools but its good to see gap closing. The future is clubs and schools and more integration between them and doing more to get schools players integrated into clubs and working more to keep people playing into 20s and then full adult level be that J2/3 or AIL and higher up...

sprucemoose · 03-08-2022 7:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119381239#Comment_119381239

huh? beirne, henderson and murray were all schools players. i presume conan was too but im not certain

Lost Ormond · 03-08-2022 8:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119425126#Comment_119425126

Murray was as much Garryowen as Munchins. 9 who toured at some stage another on that tour. discount Aki as schooled in NZ so different. so its 8. Henshaw and Furlong from clubs backgrounds(both also played in their school but are clubs players....). Kelleher, Porter, Beirne, Henderson, Conan were schools.

u18/19 sides playing warm ups ahead of interpros. Leinsters 18s sides played Worcester and Gloucester in England yesterday. Munster 18s sch playing 19s and Connacht 18s and 19s playing Ulster in next few days

Lost Ormond · 19-08-2022 2:18pm

Interpro squads for weekends opening round of games named

Munster: https://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic_news/munster-age-grade-squads-named-for-leinster-interpros/

Leinster: https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/age-grade-sides-announced-weekend-interpro-action/

Ulster: https://ulster.rugby/content/squads-named-for-age-grade-inter-pro-fixtures-vs-connacht

Connacht: https://www.connachtrugby.ie/u18-and-u19-teams-named-for-interprovincial-series-opener-against-ulster/

Lost Ormond · 20-08-2022 9:59pm

results

Clubs 18s: Leinster 36 Munster 15

Schools 18s Munster 19 Leinster 17

19s Leinster 24 Munster 19

Locke_Lamora · 21-08-2022 6:52pm

Ulster u19's were winning 50-14 against connacht whenever I left. Don't know about the u18 clubs.

Locke_Lamora · 21-08-2022 9:54pm

https://ulster.rugby/content/report-age-grade-inter-pro-fixtures-v-connacht

u19's finished 50-14

U18 clubs drew 17-17

Lost Ormond · 03-09-2022 8:35pm

Leinster win 18s Clubs interpros after 28-14 win over Ulster today, They beat Connacht 31-28 last week. Munster play Connacht tomorrow

Leinster 18s schools beat Ulster 33-19

Leinster 19s won interpro title after 28-14 win over Ulster. Munster play Connacht tomorrow

Both games tomorrow are in UL

starkid · 04-09-2022 5:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119425503#Comment_119425503

Henshaw played schools. Sexton played schools. Leinster schools have developed plenty of half backs

Lost Ormond · 04-09-2022 6:05pm

Connacht beat Munster in 18s

Munster won 19s

Lost Ormond · 24-09-2022 5:08pm

Munster u16/18 first phase draws made

good to see nearly 50 teams in each competition for phase 1 and always is potential for extra teams to be added to phase 2 bowl if clubs feel they have enough players later on to field a second team

u16

conference 1

Shannon, Garryowen, Young Munster, Kilrush, Charleville, Ennis

Conference 2

Killorglin, Listowel, Chorca Dhuibhne, Killarney, Tralee, Newcastle West, Castleisland

Conference 3

Nenagh, Thurles, Mallow, Cashel, Kanturk, Bruff

Conference 4

Skibbereen, Clonakilty Green, Crosshaven, Bantry Bay, Kinsale, Clonakilty Red, Bandon

Conference 5

Old Christians, Dolphin, Ballincollig, Highfield, Cork Con, Douglas-Muskerry

Conference 6

Clonmel, Fethard, Waterpark, Waterford City, Carrick on Suir, Fermoy, Dungarvan Blue

Conference 7

Youghal, Mitchelstown, Dungarvan White, Midleton, Sundays Well, Cobh

Under 18

Conference 1

Garryowen, Richmond-Marys, Young Munster, UL Bohs-Newport, Shannon, Senans, Old Crescent

Conference 2

Newcastle West, Mallow, Tralee, Killorglin-Iveragh, Killarney, Chorca Dhuibhne, Abbeyfeale-Listowel

Conference 3

Ennis Red, Bruff White, Nenagh, Ennis Black, Cashel-Thurles, Galtee Rugby, Bruff Yellow

Conference 4

Bandon, Kanturk, Kinsale, Skibbereen, Bantry Bay, Crosshaven, Clonakilty

Conference 5

Carrigaline-Dolphin, Highfield, Old Christians, Cork Con, Sundays Well, Muskerry, Ballincollig

Conference 6

Cobh, Youghal, Dungarvan, Waterpark, Clonmel, Waterford City-Carrick on Suir, Midleton, Fermoy

Quin_Dub · 26-09-2022 10:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119659826#Comment_119659826

Ennis and Bruff have 2 teams each at U18 and they manage to put them all in the same group?

Could they not have swapped them around with other North Munster teams?

Lost Ormond · 26-09-2022 10:30am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119665747#Comment_119665747

would have made more sense. wanted to keep all city teams together i guess...

Quin_Dub · 26-09-2022 11:45am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119665787#Comment_119665787

It's just lazy to be honest.

I'd assume that both clubs probably have picked a strong "A" team and then a second squad made up of mostly U17's and some others.

Putting them all into the same group just squeezes those teams out in the early phase.

They could have easily swapped out two teams with the "city" group without any impact.

Travelling to Ennis/Bruff isn't any more difficult than the city clubs travelling to Senans.

Lost Ormond · 26-09-2022 11:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119666107#Comment_119666107

It is lazy to an extent. Yes i will assume both clubs have an 'A' and 'B' side but the sides wont be squeezed out. they;ll still play phase 1 and have qualifiction for plate or bowl after christmas. Maybe the 2 clubs wanted it this way as well

Lost Ormond · 07-10-2022 11:00am

Irish squads named

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2022/10/07/pwc-ireland-underage-squads-gather-for-november-camps/

07-10-2022 11:18am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119712135#Comment_119712135

Any particular players you've heard are worth watching out Lost Ormond?

How come Ruadhan Quinn isn't included in the U19 squad?

Lsdrugbyfan · 07-10-2022 11:22am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119712218#Comment_119712218

He is U20.

stephen_n · 07-10-2022 1:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119712235#Comment_119712235

He’s only 18 isn’t he?

Lsdrugbyfan · 07-10-2022 1:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119712729#Comment_119712729

turns 19 this year so u20.

Locke_Lamora · 07-10-2022 2:46pm

No evan O'Connell or joe hopes is a surprise if they arent injured. Both started in the row for the u18s last year.

Lost Ormond · 07-10-2022 3:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119713397#Comment_119713397

Could be 20s. Evan o connell didn't train with the munster 19s for most of summer and only came back for interpros as was with academy/pros all summer. Hasn't heard was injured...

Lsdrugbyfan · 07-10-2022 3:09pm

Ireland U19 Squad

Prop

Jacob Boyd (Ulster/RBAI)

Adam Deay (Leinster/Lansdowne FC)

Andrew Sparrow (Leinster/St Mary’s College

Adam Wrona (Munster/Christian Brothers Cork)

Grant Palmer (Leinster/Wexford Wanderers RFC)

Flynn Longstaff (Ulster/Campbell College)

Hooker

Stephen Smyth (Leinster/Kilkenny College)

Zac Solomon (Ulster/Campbell College)

Lock

Mark Lee (Ulster/Rainey Old Boys RFC)

James McKillop (Ulster/Foyle College)

Blayze Molloy (Connacht/Ballina RFC/Clongowes)

Luke O’Connor (Leinster/Lansdowne FC)

Backrow

Sean Edogbo (Munster/UCC RFC)

Max Flynn (Connacht/Corinthians RFC/Roscrea CC)

Bryn Ward (Ulster/RBAI)

Richard Whelan (Leinster/Roscrea CC)

Josh Stevens (Ulster/Methodist College)

Scrumhalf

Tadhg Brophy (Leinster/Newbridge College)

Oliver Coffey (Leinster/Blackrock College)

Jake O’Riordan (Munster/St Munchins)

Outhalf

Tom Larke (Leinster/Old Wesley RFC)

Sean Naughton (Leinster/Kilkenny College)

Outside Backs

Sean Condon (UCC/Munster)

Jules Fenelon (Leinster/St Michaels College)

Ethan Graham (Ulster/Ballynahinch RFC)

Ben McFarlane (Ulster/Methodist College)

Hugo McLaughlin (Leinster/Gonzaga College)

Ben O’Connor (Munster/PBC)

Wilhelm de Klerk (Leinster/St Michaels College)

Rory Ellerby (Ulster/RBAI)

Finn Treacy (Leinster/Presentation College Bray)

Lucas Kenny (Uster/Campbell College)

Luke Kritzinger (Leinster/Blackrock College)

Lsdrugbyfan · 07-10-2022 3:10pm

Ireland U18 Schools Squad:

Prop

James Wyse (Leinster/Clongowes Wood College)

Adam Watchcorn (Leinster/Kilkenny College)

Emmett Calvey (Munster/Ard Scoil Ris)

Mark Fitzgerald (Munster/Crescent College)

Hooker

Tom Stewart (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

Mikey Yarr (Leinster/Blackrock College)

Lock

Michael Foy (Munster/Christian Brothers College)

Eanna McCarthy (Munster/Christian Brothers College)

Alex Mullan (Leinster/Blackrock College)

Alan Spicer (Leinster/Belvedere College)

Backrow

Jack Angulo (Leinster/Blackrock College)

Oisin Minogue (Munster/St Munchins)

Alex Usuanov (Leinster/Belvederd College)

James White (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

Luke Murphy (Munster/Ard Scoil Ris)

Aaron O’Brien (Leinster/St Mary’s College)

Jack Ryan (Munster/Rockwell College)

Scrumhalf

David Armstrong (Ulster/Methodist College)

Clarke Logan (Ulster/Coleraine Grammar School)

Marcus Lyons (Munster/Crescent College)

Outhalf

Oscar Davey (Munster/Crescent College)

Paddy Taylor (Leinster/Newbridge College)

Outside Backs

Fionn Casserly (Munster/Crescent College)

Tom Coughlan (Munster/Presentation Brothers Cork)

Andrew Cosgrave (Leinster/St Michaels College)

Ciaran Managan (Leinster/Newbridge College)

Charlie Molony (Leinster/Blackrock College)

Evan Moynihan (Leinster/St Marys College)

Gene O’Leary Kareem (Munster/Presentation Brothers Cork)

Jed O’Dwyer (Munster/Crescent College)

Andre Ryan (Leinster/Belvedere College)

Johnny Scott (Ulster/Dromore High School)

Matthew Te Pou (Munster/St Munchins)

ulsteru20s · 10-10-2022 5:19am

This is my first year following this.

I noticed that there isn't a ton of carryover from the under 18s schools festival team last spring to the under 19s squad named. Only 12. Multiple guys i found impressive didnt make it.

Is that normal?

Lost Ormond · 10-10-2022 9:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119724245#Comment_119724245

Yes. Though some from the 18s festival could have been 17s so playing 18s again. Others could now be 20s, playing up.

LRind2008 · 13-10-2022 1:58pm

So St.Michaels will be competing in the world rugby schools competition this year, do they have a strong SCT this year or they likely going to get pumped by Grey,Milfield and hamilton at the festival.

Who are considered favourites this year for the LSSC this year?

Lsdrugbyfan · 13-10-2022 2:07pm

Rock are favourites IMO

But not massively so like last season.

Michaels wont be far off them.

Terenure/Gonzaga are dark horses

LRind2008 · 13-10-2022 2:15pm

Has there been any preseason games yet, I think Marys lost to Belvo 30-19 or something like that but not sure Marys were full strength

Locke_Lamora · 13-10-2022 3:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119739142#Comment_119739142

South african school's rugby is generally on a different level tbh, I'd expect any team from Ireland to struggle against the like of Greys, Affies, Paarl Gym etc. When the tournament is organised it's difficult to know who will be the top teams that year, so obviously the best teams from each country might not be competing, but I remember the top SA schools running up cricket scores against the english and NZ teams. They put some of their games on the Supersport Schools youtube page if you want to have a look. They play incredible fast and physical, it's a great watch.

LRind2008 · 13-10-2022 3:57pm

I know back in 2013/14 Blackrock battered EG Jansen who were ranked the 5th best school in SA at the time and wasnt even close. But that blackrock team was very very good.

Will be interesting to see how the other countries teams compare to Grey.

13-10-2022 4:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119739874#Comment_119739874

A Rock in 2015 beat a South African schools amalgamation side as well I think.

The 2013 Leinster Schools Cup Final between Rock & Michaels produced a hell of a lot of pro rugby players:

-Garry Ringrose, Charlie Rock, Jeremy Loughman, Oli Jager, David O'Connor and Nick Timoney on the Rock side

-Cian Kelleher, Ross Byrne, Nick McCarthy, Denis Coulson, Ross Molony, James Ryan, Josh Murphy and Max Deegan on the Michaels team that also included a 7s international in Adam Leavy.

LRind2008 · 13-10-2022 4:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119739987#Comment_119739987

That was a very strong couple years for Blackrock the team the year after had: Loughman, Timoney, Doris, Jager, Conor oliver, Hugo Keenan, Brian Mollen (Ire 7s), Joey Carberry, David O'connor

Lost Ormond · 13-10-2022 6:01pm

Lads this is youths rugby thread running for over a decade. dont have schools talk leading to this being closed like so many of those threads

And that rock team had many youths players: Loughman(athy), Oliver (skerries), Carberry (athy), o connor (skerries)....

Munster league phase 1 nearly at half way phase now. Qualifiers for phase 2 cup etc beginning to take shape

Lsdrugbyfan · 18-10-2022 3:42pm

35 Leinster players in national talent squads:

Prop

George Hadden (Gorey/Clontarf FC) - u20

Patrick McCarthy (Blackrock/Dublin University FC) - u20

Adam Deay (Tullow/Lansdowne FC) - u19

Andrew Sparrow (St Mary’s College) - u19

Adam Watchorn (Prop/Kilkenny College) - u18

Hooker

Gus McCarthy (Blackrock/UCD RFC) - u20

Stephen Smyth (Kilkenny) - u19

Tom Stewart (St Michaels) - u18

Lock

Conor O’Tighernaigh (S. Micheals/UCD RFC) - u20

James Doyle (Enniscorthy RFC/Enniscorthy) - u20

Alan Spicer (Belvedere) - u18

Alex Mullen (Blackrock) - u18

Mahon Ronan (Boyne RFC) - u17

Backrow

Liam Molony (Blackrock/DUFC) - u20

Alex Usanov (Belvedere) - u18

Aaron O’Brien (St Marys) - u18

Scrumhalf

Fintan Gunne (St, Michaels/Terenure RFC) - u20

Tadhg Brophy (Newbridge) - u19

Oliver Coffey (Blackrock) - u19

Outhalf

Tom Larke (Old Wesley RFC) - u19

Jack Murphy (Pres Bray) - u19

Sean Naughton (Kilkenny) - u19

Paddy Taylor (Newbridge) - u18

Centre

Hugh Cooney (Blackrock/Clontarf FC) - u20

Sam Berman (St. Michaels/Dublin University FC) - u19

Luke Kritzinger (Blackrock) - u19

Connor Fahy (Wexford RFC)

Back Three

Henry McErlean (St. Michaels/Terenure College RFC) - u20

Andrew Osborne (Naas/Naas RFC) - u20

David Colbert (Gonzaga/Dublin University FC) - u19

Ruben Moloney (Blackrock/UCD RFC) - u19

Jules Fenelon (St Michaels) - u19

Hugo McLaughlin (Gonzaga) - u19

Paidi Farrell (Tullamore RFC) - u18

Charlie Molony (Blackrock) - u17

Lsdrugbyfan · 18-10-2022 3:43pm

22 Munster players in national talent squads:

Prop

Mark Fitzgerald (Crescent College Comp) - u19

Emmett Calvey (Ard Scoil Ris) - u18

Hooker

Danny Sheahan (PBC/UCC RFC) - u19

Lock

Dawid Novak (CBC Cork) - u19

Michael Foy (CBC Cork) - u18

Backrow

Jacob Sheahan (PBC/UCC RFC) - u19

Sean Edogbo (Cobh RFC/UCC RFC) - u19

Brian Gleeson (Rockkwell/Garryowen FC) - u19

Kamil Novak (CBC Cork) - u19

Luke Murphy (Ard Scoil Ris) - u18

Scrumhalf

Jake O’Riordan (St Munchins College) - u19

Outhalf

Dylan Hicks (Bantry RFC) - u18

Tom Wood (St Munchins College) - u18

Centre

Michael O’Donovan (Bantry RFC) - u18

Eoghan Smyth (Midleton RFC) - u18

Gene O’Leary Kareem (PBC Cork) - u18

Back Three

Josh Costello (Shannon RFC) - u20

Ihechi Oji (UL Bohemians RFC) - u20

Ben O’Connor (PBC Cork) - u19

Stephen Kiely (Castletroy/Old Crescent RFC) - u19

Jed O’Dwyer (Crescent College Comp) - u18

Matt Te Pou (St Munchins College) - u18

Lsdrugbyfan · 18-10-2022 3:43pm

17 ulster players in national training squads:

Prop

Jack Boal (Campbell/QUB RFC) - u20

Cameron Doak (Wallace/Belfast Harlequins RFC) - u20

Joe Charles (Down/Ballynahinch RFC) - u20

Jacob Boyd (RBAI) - u19

Flynn Longstaff (Campbell College) - u19

Hooker

Lock

Charlie Irvine (Wallace/QUB RFC) - u20

Backrow

Mark Lee (Rainey Old Boys RFC) - u19

Josh Stevens (Methodist College) - u19

Bryn Ward (RBAI) - u19

James McKillop (Foyle College) - u19

Jamie Jackson (Portadown College) - u18

Scrumhalf

David Armstrong (Methodist College) - u18

Clarke Logan (Coleraine Grammar School) - u18

Outhalf

Centre

Rory Ellerby (RBAI) - u19

Back Three

Ethan Graham (Ballynahinch RFC) - u19

Lucas Kenny (Campbell College) - u19

Ben McFarlane (Methodist College) - u19

Lsdrugbyfan · 18-10-2022 3:43pm

11 Connacht players in national training squads:

Prop

Fiachna Barrett (Prop/Corinthians RFC)

Sean Hopkins (Prop/Ballina RFC/St Muredach’s College)

Hooker

Lock

Ambrose Bamber (Lock/Sligo RFC/Sligo Grammar)

Diarmuid O’Connell (Lock/Sligo RFC/Sligo Grammar)

Bryan Walsh (Lock/Corinthians RFC/Colaiste Einde)

Backrow

Max Flynn (Backrow/Corinthians RFC/CC Roscrea) - u19

Blayze Molloy (Backrow/Ballina RFC/Clongowes) - u19

Scrumhalf

Tom Farthing (Scrumhalf/Corinthians RFC/Colaiste Chroi Mhuire)

Outhalf

Centre

Caden Grant (Centre/Corinthians RFC/St Joseph’s College)

Back Three

Sean Fox (Wing/Corinthians RFC) - u19

Cian Brady (Fullback/Monivea RFC/Colaiste an Eachreidh)

realhorrorshow · 18-10-2022 6:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119761061#Comment_119761061

What exactly are the national training squads? I assume the players will have periodic training camps and consistent contact with coaches throughout the year?

Will the various underage squads this year be made up exclusively of these players or will some come from outside? I guess 85 players isn't sufficient for four squads, even before injuries etc.

Lost Ormond · 18-10-2022 7:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119761896#Comment_119761896

They are potential future academy and pro players. Yeah they get periodic training camps and sessions.

The irish squads will look outside these players.

ljsulster · 18-10-2022 7:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119761896#Comment_119761896

National talent squad is a group of players identified by the irfu and provinces to be the players with the most potential to play professional rugby at provincial or international level

Quin_Dub · 19-10-2022 9:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119761896#Comment_119761896

Think of it like a sub sub-academy.

These are players that they feel are the most likely contenders to make the provincial academies in the next few years, so they get a bit of extra attention and coaching etc.

The Underage provincial teams will be made up of these guys plus others outside the NTS.

Not all the NTS members will make the academies of course , but they are the most likely group.

ulsteru20s · 20-10-2022 12:53am

Are there any recent examples of guys who were not in a NTS at any point and made an academy? From within ireland.

Lsdrugbyfan · 20-10-2022 8:48am

Dan Sheehan comes to mind anyway, more recently Temi Lasisi.

alanb92 · 21-10-2022 7:04pm

Very surprised not to see Charlie Sheridan included in the National Talent Squad, he looks a serious prospect. Anyone have any insights into why he wasn’t included?

Are there are any other notable omissions?

ulsteru20s · 21-10-2022 7:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119776483#Comment_119776483

There was a guy from munster who had some hype who didnt make it i think. Neff Giwa.

Lsdrugbyfan · 22-10-2022 1:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119776483#Comment_119776483

his size is seen as an issue at the pro level.. he is an excellent player

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