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Youths Rugby



  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

    Rock are favourites IMO

    But not massively so like last season.

    Michaels wont be far off them.

    Terenure/Gonzaga are dark horses

  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭LRind2008

    Has there been any preseason games yet, I think Marys lost to Belvo 30-19 or something like that but not sure Marys were full strength

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora

    South african school's rugby is generally on a different level tbh, I'd expect any team from Ireland to struggle against the like of Greys, Affies, Paarl Gym etc. When the tournament is organised it's difficult to know who will be the top teams that year, so obviously the best teams from each country might not be competing, but I remember the top SA schools running up cricket scores against the english and NZ teams. They put some of their games on the Supersport Schools youtube page if you want to have a look. They play incredible fast and physical, it's a great watch.

  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭LRind2008

    I know back in 2013/14 Blackrock battered EG Jansen who were ranked the 5th best school in SA at the time and wasnt even close. But that blackrock team was very very good.

    Will be interesting to see how the other countries teams compare to Grey.

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    A Rock in 2015 beat a South African schools amalgamation side as well I think.

    The 2013 Leinster Schools Cup Final between Rock & Michaels produced a hell of a lot of pro rugby players:

    -Garry Ringrose, Charlie Rock, Jeremy Loughman, Oli Jager, David O'Connor and Nick Timoney on the Rock side

    -Cian Kelleher, Ross Byrne, Nick McCarthy, Denis Coulson, Ross Molony, James Ryan, Josh Murphy and Max Deegan on the Michaels team that also included a 7s international in Adam Leavy.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭LRind2008

    That was a very strong couple years for Blackrock the team the year after had: Loughman, Timoney, Doris, Jager, Conor oliver, Hugo Keenan, Brian Mollen (Ire 7s), Joey Carberry, David O'connor

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond

    Lads this is youths rugby thread running for over a decade. dont have schools talk leading to this being closed like so many of those threads

    And that rock team had many youths players: Loughman(athy), Oliver (skerries), Carberry (athy), o connor (skerries)....

    Munster league phase 1 nearly at half way phase now. Qualifiers for phase 2 cup etc beginning to take shape

  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

    35 Leinster players in national talent squads:


    George Hadden (Gorey/Clontarf FC) - u20

    Patrick McCarthy (Blackrock/Dublin University FC) - u20

    Adam Deay (Tullow/Lansdowne FC) - u19

    Andrew Sparrow (St Mary’s College) - u19

    Adam Watchorn (Prop/Kilkenny College) - u18


    Gus McCarthy (Blackrock/UCD RFC) - u20

    Stephen Smyth (Kilkenny) - u19

    Tom Stewart (St Michaels) - u18


    Conor O’Tighernaigh (S. Micheals/UCD RFC) - u20

    James Doyle (Enniscorthy RFC/Enniscorthy) - u20

    Alan Spicer (Belvedere) - u18

    Alex Mullen (Blackrock) - u18

    Mahon Ronan (Boyne RFC) - u17


    Liam Molony (Blackrock/DUFC) - u20

    Alex Usanov (Belvedere) - u18

    Aaron O’Brien (St Marys) - u18


    Fintan Gunne (St, Michaels/Terenure RFC) - u20

    Tadhg Brophy (Newbridge) - u19

    Oliver Coffey (Blackrock) - u19


    Tom Larke (Old Wesley RFC) - u19

    Jack Murphy (Pres Bray) - u19

    Sean Naughton (Kilkenny) - u19

    Paddy Taylor (Newbridge) - u18


    Hugh Cooney (Blackrock/Clontarf FC) - u20

    Sam Berman (St. Michaels/Dublin University FC) - u19

    Luke Kritzinger (Blackrock) - u19

    Connor Fahy (Wexford RFC)

    Back Three

    Henry McErlean (St. Michaels/Terenure College RFC) - u20

    Andrew Osborne (Naas/Naas RFC) - u20

    David Colbert (Gonzaga/Dublin University FC) - u19

    Ruben Moloney (Blackrock/UCD RFC) - u19

    Jules Fenelon (St Michaels) - u19

    Hugo McLaughlin (Gonzaga) - u19

    Paidi Farrell (Tullamore RFC) - u18

    Charlie Molony (Blackrock) - u17

  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

    22 Munster players in national talent squads:


    Mark Fitzgerald (Crescent College Comp) - u19

    Emmett Calvey (Ard Scoil Ris) - u18


    Danny Sheahan (PBC/UCC RFC) - u19


    Dawid Novak (CBC Cork) - u19

    Michael Foy (CBC Cork) - u18


    Jacob Sheahan (PBC/UCC RFC) - u19

    Sean Edogbo (Cobh RFC/UCC RFC) - u19

    Brian Gleeson (Rockkwell/Garryowen FC) - u19

    Kamil Novak (CBC Cork) - u19

    Luke Murphy (Ard Scoil Ris) - u18


    Jake O’Riordan (St Munchins College) - u19


    Dylan Hicks (Bantry RFC) - u18

    Tom Wood (St Munchins College) - u18


    Michael O’Donovan (Bantry RFC) - u18

    Eoghan Smyth (Midleton RFC) - u18

    Gene O’Leary Kareem (PBC Cork) - u18

    Back Three

    Josh Costello (Shannon RFC) - u20

    Ihechi Oji (UL Bohemians RFC) - u20

    Ben O’Connor (PBC Cork) - u19

    Stephen Kiely (Castletroy/Old Crescent RFC) - u19

    Jed O’Dwyer (Crescent College Comp) - u18

    Matt Te Pou (St Munchins College) - u18

  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

    17 ulster players in national training squads:


    Jack Boal (Campbell/QUB RFC) - u20

    Cameron Doak (Wallace/Belfast Harlequins RFC) - u20

    Joe Charles (Down/Ballynahinch RFC) - u20

    Jacob Boyd (RBAI) - u19

    Flynn Longstaff (Campbell College) - u19



    Charlie Irvine (Wallace/QUB RFC) - u20


    Mark Lee (Rainey Old Boys RFC) - u19

    Josh Stevens (Methodist College) - u19

    Bryn Ward (RBAI) - u19

    James McKillop (Foyle College) - u19

    Jamie Jackson (Portadown College) - u18


    David Armstrong (Methodist College) - u18

    Clarke Logan (Coleraine Grammar School) - u18



    Rory Ellerby (RBAI) - u19

    Back Three

    Ethan Graham (Ballynahinch RFC) - u19

    Lucas Kenny (Campbell College) - u19

    Ben McFarlane (Methodist College) - u19

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  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

    11 Connacht players in national training squads:


    Fiachna Barrett (Prop/Corinthians RFC)

    Sean Hopkins (Prop/Ballina RFC/St Muredach’s College)



    Ambrose Bamber (Lock/Sligo RFC/Sligo Grammar)

    Diarmuid O’Connell (Lock/Sligo RFC/Sligo Grammar)

    Bryan Walsh (Lock/Corinthians RFC/Colaiste Einde)


    Max Flynn (Backrow/Corinthians RFC/CC Roscrea) - u19

    Blayze Molloy (Backrow/Ballina RFC/Clongowes) - u19


    Tom Farthing (Scrumhalf/Corinthians RFC/Colaiste Chroi Mhuire)



    Caden Grant (Centre/Corinthians RFC/St Joseph’s College)

    Back Three

    Sean Fox (Wing/Corinthians RFC) - u19

    Cian Brady (Fullback/Monivea RFC/Colaiste an Eachreidh)

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow

    What exactly are the national training squads? I assume the players will have periodic training camps and consistent contact with coaches throughout the year?

    Will the various underage squads this year be made up exclusively of these players or will some come from outside? I guess 85 players isn't sufficient for four squads, even before injuries etc.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond

    They are potential future academy and pro players. Yeah they get periodic training camps and sessions.

    The irish squads will look outside these players.

  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭ljsulster

    National talent squad is a group of players identified by the irfu and provinces to be the players with the most potential to play professional rugby at provincial or international level

  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub

    Think of it like a sub sub-academy.

    These are players that they feel are the most likely contenders to make the provincial academies in the next few years, so they get a bit of extra attention and coaching etc.

    The Underage provincial teams will be made up of these guys plus others outside the NTS.

    Not all the NTS members will make the academies of course , but they are the most likely group.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭ulsteru20s

    Are there any recent examples of guys who were not in a NTS at any point and made an academy? From within ireland.

  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

    Dan Sheehan comes to mind anyway, more recently Temi Lasisi.

  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭alanb92

    Very surprised not to see Charlie Sheridan included in the National Talent Squad, he looks a serious prospect. Anyone have any insights into why he wasn’t included?

    Are there are any other notable omissions?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭ulsteru20s

    There was a guy from munster who had some hype who didnt make it i think. Neff Giwa.

  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

    his size is seen as an issue at the pro level.. he is an excellent player

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  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

    he is more athlete than rugby player, didnt even start for munster clubs

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭ulsteru20s

    For the non Leinster provinces, I think i’d keep a spot for those kinds of guys. You can make a rugby player but you can’t make an athlete. Depending on their attitude, though.

  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭luke9311

    thats not the same sheridan playing for lansdowne 20s at the minute do you know? seen a player called sheridan on there teamsheets before seems decent enough cant remember what his first name was tho.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora

  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,569 ✭✭✭snotboogie

    Munster seem to be tapping into immigrant communities far better than any other province. They have Oji, Te Pou, Kareem and Edogbo, also Giwa who didn’t make the squad. I don’t think there is a single player across the other 3 provinces’ NTS from a non European background.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n

    cormac izuchukwu - Ulster

    Temi Lasisi - Leinster

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,569 ✭✭✭snotboogie

    They are academy players. I am talking about the NTS line ups.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond

    Comps update...

    Connacht leagues at 16s/18s. 2/3 rounds in.

    18s division 1 Buccs and Sligo started strong. Division 2 Ballinasloe, Corrib, Westport leading so far

    17s division 1 Sligo, Buccs, Corinthians going well Division 2 Castlebar, Corrib

    16s Division 1 Sligo, Buccs, Corinthians, Ballina.. Division 2 Connemara-Oughterard, Castlebar


    Phase 1 nearly finished bar a few catch up games/playoffs. so most group qualifiers are known


    Section 1

    Young Munster 1st, Shannon/Ennis or Garryowen 2nd/3rd. playoffs

    Section 2

    Corcha Dhuibhne v Castleisland final game next weekend. Corca Dhuibne 2nd win or lose. Castleisiand last but a win would put them third. Killorglin, Listowel will want CD to win and then its tiebreaker with Killorglin having beat Listowel in group game

    Section 3

    Nenagh 1st, Bruff 2nd, Kanturk 3rd

    Section 4

    Bandon 1st, Clonakilty 2nd, Kinsale 3rd


    Highfield 1st, Cork Con 2nd, Ballincollig 3rd

    Section 6

    Fermoy finished on 16 points. Waterpark 1 to play on 12 points. Clonmel finished on 12 points. W City 1 to play on 8. Both waterford sides play winless fethard. assume both win the games then it would be Waterpark 1st, Fermoy 2nd, Clonmel 3rd

    Section 7

    Youghal 1st, Midleton 2nd, Cobh​ 3rd


    Section 1

    Young Munster, Garryowen, Crescent and Shannon all on 16 points. Garryowen v Crescent playoff next weekend...

    Section 2

    Abbeyfeale-Listowel 1st, Killarney 2nd, Killorglin 3rd

    Section 3

    Ennis Black 1st, Cashel-Thurles 2nd, Bruff White 3rd

    Section 4

    Kinsale 1st, Bantry Bay 2nd, Bandon 3rd

    Section 5

    Highfield 1st, Carrigaline-Dolphin 2nd, Sundays Well 3rd

    Section 6

    Waterpark 1st Clonmel 2nd. Cobh 3rd. Midleton 4th. Waterpark play Midleton in final game next weekend. Midleton must win to qualify for cup ahead of Cobh

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  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭LRind2008

    Genuinely the strangest post ive seen on this website to date