DF Commission Report

There are no Piper aircraft. There never were any Piper aircraft. Whatever media outlet mentioned Piper aircraft were talking through their hat.

No, I imagine it will be a far more transitional arrangement than that.

DoD will discuss with DoJ the long term security of these facilities. The Government will agree that the Army presence at these sites is a Troubles era legacy and it is far more appropriate that they should be secured by the civil powers.

AGS and the Prison Service will then work with DoJ to agree a security plan for each and ask DPER for the resources to dedicate newly sourced and trained armed Officers to ultimately replace the Army presence and return those personnel to core duties.

It would take some time, but I've no doubt an improvement in technological security solutions at each site would help that transition.

For the West coast Killybegs would be probaly the only one fit to go with Full access. I dont think there is any other port really good enoght. Galway is controlled and Sligo i think is tidal as well

I understand thay Army HQ will be more than likely in Athlone as there is very Strong poltical will behind it. But weather our Generals will want to cross the shannon is another story

Time will tell but it was the commision that said the Army HQ be Geograpgically centrally located. It would be an easy win for the government as they can tick the box saying they have gone along with another recomendation

Athlone has been touted as DFHQ for a long long time, cant see it happening. Maybe elements could be moved like with Newbridge back in 2013, however, administration has been less efficient as a result.

The NS have Dun Laoghaire in their sights.

Gormanston is a perfect place to train recruits. The DOD wouldn't spend money on it as there were too many unanswered questions over its future, for the last 20 years.

Was there recently a Naval Service presentaion which showed Hangers amd helipads at the base?

Of course you can they are still state owned. They can simply transfer the ownership back

Completely agree.

None of those former, small, Urban/Suburban Barracks mentioned are suitable for the expansion required, nor the noisier and more challenging aspects of 2-Star level training.

Gormanstown is over 1 million square metres of a site, has loads of scope for new infrastructure and its neighbours are well used to live firing drills.

The Implementation Group (to be Chaired independently) will endorse the delivery action plans and report on performance.

I think those plans are to be made available to the Minister and presumably the Implementation Group before year end.

Stuff like this makes the scope of PESCO look completely redundant. Because it is.

These guys are saying '**** the EU Procurement', going straight to the manufacturers they know and trust and giving them a shopping list. Thats wartime inventory building.

If only the Irish Government had the balls to piggyback this process, talk to NATO and say, 'look, we aren't going to join up and fight with you if it comes to it, BUT, we understand your logic about 'sky shield' and if you help us fast track equipment purchase, we will look after our own back yard and at least plug a potential weak spot.

Gormanston has enough existing infrastructure. You could train up to 100 or so troops at at time.

It really doesn't lack anything, its actually superior in scope to city barracks'.

All good signs they are not throwing the towel in

100%

I've said it before on here, we have no need to be an early adopter or bespoke builder. Our needs are tiny, proven, durable tech OTS will fulfil everything we need.

Glad to see the EU procurement proposal. Its essentially the next natural step in PESCO, bulk savings.

No doubt the naysayers will be out expecting the Minuteman transporters to be rolling down the N7 any day.

100% no.

"It would be unwise to make any major changes until the report is finished". Or something along those lines

To be fair, the strategic threat environment is about more than defence, its about intelligence too and ours is paltry.

The strategic risk level has changed utterly since 2019, so much so that I think they're as well off starting with a blank sheet of paper. Also NSAC was only getting on its feet in '19, they should carry this new review out as an established lead advisor to the Government. Who knows, maybe they'll show the DoD a thing or two.