Scottish independence

I don't think you're correct on your statements at all.

And as said before, no, Scotland, can't use the pound. And things don't get more correct, if you keep repeating them.

Also why should Scotland continue to use the pound, if they want to leave? ( that's the part which sounds very very much like a Brexiteer )

I also don't think that there is ever a majority of Scots who would want the Euro, - it's a mismanaged currency which constantly devalues, it's worse than the pound.

Sturgeon doesn't get more credible if she keeps reiterating that the pound can still be used in an Independent Scotland.

I would also find it very very hard to believe that the rest of the UK would tolerate the Scotts leaving, but at the same time still retaining citizenship or wanting to retain Briitsh citizenship, with all it's advantages. This would include voting in every federal election in the rest of the UK by absentee ballot for at least another 15 years, this could change every outcome of every election. Same goes for free NHS treatment across the border in England. Sorry, but whatever you say, I simply won't believe that Westminster would ever tolerate that and Sturgeon will certainly not have a clear answer to that as well.

The debate on the English/Scottish border will be very much one of the border on Northern Ireland to the Republic now. Westminster could easily impose taxes and customs duties, use it as a possible trade war, if Scotland doesn't play along as they want, like continue using the pound, etc.... There is not much Bruxelles could ever do, regarding the English Scottish border.

Scottish independence is already an argument, before it even happens. That one is certainly for sure.

Scottish unionists have been continuously pushing the 'Scotland is not a real country' line, just a mere British region, but I notice King Charles has referred to Scotland as a 'country' and a 'nation' on quite a few occasions.

Or here about financial matters: ( of course that's a Tory paper, so the SNP voters automatically discredit it)

"An independent Scotland could start off saddled with £180 billion of debt and be forced to borrow £20 billion annually to plug a financial black hole, according to a former economic adviser to the Scottish government.

Professor John Kay, who served on the Scottish council of economic advisers, warned of the challenges that lie ahead as ministers prepare to publish new papers arguing that Scots would be better off outside the UK"

One can answer anything it only depends how and not everybody likes the answers.

The questions are never dangerous, but the answers are.

I would suspect that they would do some kind of "habitual residency test" on how they would award Scottish citizenship.

That would mean, that even somebody who feels English but lived in Scotland for professional reasons for say, 15 years or more, would get Scottish citizenship. Place of birth would be another criteria.

Or if you have clearly Scottish ancestry, but are living in England or Wales for several generation.

And then there is the problem of the referendum results. Say 52% vote in favour of independence, this would mean roughly 2,5 Million people in Scotland would b become Scottish citizens and quite possibly lose British citizenship against their will. Personally I would never agree to that. A slim majority deciding over my identity, an identity I clearly do not want to have.

This scenario is not impossible. I only think back, when Newfoundland joined Canada, everybody became Canadian, and British ancestry was later on not recognized.

I would suggest the independence fight is driven by hardliners inside the SNP.

It'll be similar as the Brexit was driven by hardliners in the Conservatives. Cameron didn't want it either, I'd suggest.

Well 5.5 million Scottish people lost EU citizenship on a margin as tight.

Scotland could just stay in the CTA like Ireland and those people could keep being British and live there just like I did with my Irish passport in the UK.

Again all this has been done on this thread already.

Your language suggests you do not care much for self determination

Why would Scotland want to be part of the UK when the latter signs international agreements and breaks them?

Well if the majority of NI voted for an Independence party like Scotland did it would be on the agenda but that's obviously never going to happen.

I do suppose you're right. There's absolutely no proof that any States' in Northern Europe of around 5m people could be in anyway successful and be independent.

It won't be that messy. The English/Scottish border has very few crossings. It's incomparable to the British -imposed border in Ireland.

Never-endum is the type of shte you see ripped straight off loopy political Twitter accounts.

Also it's not a border crossed regularly because it's mostly a deadzone population wise. You would have minor problems at Gretna and I know there are English people commuting into Carlisle (many moved to score free uni for the kids)

The Scots are pretty low on facts and figures also, have a read of the 2013 white paper and it's all aspirational stuff

And they have plenty of emotion.

Why do you keep repeating yourself and creating such ridiculous strawmen and hurdles to try and prove your tenuous arguments?

You do not agree with Scotland becoming an independent sovereign country? That is fine and you can vote No in the forthcoming referendum. I will be voting Yes

The citizenship and currency issues are at least complete red herrings. The Free State and later the Republic kept the Punt pegged to Sterling for over 50 years after independence. Citizenship only became an issue when Ireland declared itself a Republic really. It would take a generation to resolve and would be slowly phased in. Everyone would remain a British citizen at independence. Only those born after may not be, but the likelihood is, the first generation would at least also be considered British citizens and in any case the CTA is almost certainly going to remain as is. Sure the English have lost FoM in enough of Europe....are they really going to opt to cut themselves off from Scotland and Ireland too.

Eight years today since the people in Scotland bottled it

Sturgeon has been First Minister for almost all those eight years and she has barely moved independence forward