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Seamus Power - PGA Tour Winner 2021/22

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I think Seamus’ name is written all over this. He looks very laid back and probably hasn’t been at his best over the two days, I just think the course suits him so much that he’s been solid without needing to be spectacular. I expect him to put on a bit of show over the weekend and shoot a low number today, he seems to be absolutely buzzing with the whole thing. Ultimately, he’s surrounded by players that are ranked pretty low in the OWGR and with the crowds that he’ll have on his side I think it’s going to be very difficult for other players in that atmosphere where they’re all only shouting for one player.

    what a story it would be if he does do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,840 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Really couldn’t get over how well built Seamus Power is - Only noticed it in person

    Tall, Stocky etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭boardise


    Well I'll be a monkey's uncle - sure didn't see that coming.

    Shows what pressure and the weight of expectation can do to freeze the brain . Ah well , nothing for it only to sleep it off and roll in with a pointless 66 tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    There was a medical emergency in the crowd whilst Seamus was playing 1 today. They waited until it had been dealt with before playing on, and apparently a rules official told them they were on the clock because they’d delayed. Seamus said in his post-round interview that his rhythm had been thrown off by that.

    Seems very unfair to be put on the clock due to something that happened in the crowd



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭boardise


    fair enough but didn't seem to have had any adverse effect on Jack Senior though...scored 10 shots better than SP.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,101 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Followed him today for 5 holes, was fairly disappointing to be honest, just never got going, huge crowd following so lot of pressure I'd say.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭abff


    Seamus is in quite a marquee group with Cam Smith and Brooks Koepka for the first two rounds of The Open.



  • Registered Users Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Lad GAGA


    First target is to make the cut. If he does that he will have made the cut in each of his first four majors, which in itself would be no mean achievement. If he gets to the weekend anything is possible. Think he has a decent outside chance, will be under the radar a bit, unlike the Irish open. Top 15 would be a great outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP


    He is taking a long time off - hasn't played since the Open. Thought he'd play once or twice before the FedEx to build some points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Icemancometh


    Not a great round yesterday but a good start today, need a couple more I think.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Lad GAGA


    Not sure what's happening with Seamus, between not playing in comps and missing cuts, its the polar opposite to how he started the season. Hope he rediscovers his form soon, not sure if his confidence has taken a hit over the last few weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    The pressure is off Seamus now to retain his card for the PGA tour and his world ranking is fairly well intact also. Sometimes when you don't have as much to play for, your game can go off the boil a bit. He fought like a dag for his tour card and then to get comfortably into the top 50 in the world. He rightly earned a break, but its tough to get back into it when you dont actually "need" to get back into it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    He had no worries about his card. He won the Barbasol last year.

    He has no coach so when his game goes off he has to find a way to fix it himself. That can take time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I wonder if he would be tempted by the LIV tour? For a late bloomer like himself, he may just be going through his 18 month peak (as Padraig said). He's not particularly well known in the US or Ireland and I think he would avoid much of the flack that higher profile players get.

    His prolonged break after the open just makes me think he might quietly be joining LIV after the playoffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP


    God I hope not, I'd lose all respect for him then. He really benefitted from the pathway the PGA provides, and the money that can be made by a "journeyman". To go on join a tour that essentially torches all of that would be terrible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,333 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Given his situation up until a few years ago, the lure of setting himself up for life would be very big imo. He's made serious money of late obviously but LIV is a different ball game and I'm sure he would have to give it some thought from a financial point of view.

    However I reckon the chance to play in the Ryder Cup, the fact that he's just recently got a taste for Majors and has done very well in them, would be huge factors to staying on the PGA. And the more golfers that go to LIV, the better the chances of him making more money on the PGA as well. That could be a factor coming more and more into play.

    It's would be a very big decision for him imo. I wouldn't like to see him go but I would understand it more than a lot of other golfers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    Not a chance Seamus is defecting. He’s as pro PGA tour as any player out there. He fought his way up to the PGA tour from the lowest possible starting point and the PGA has given him everything he has at the moment. The man is too honourable to switch to LIV and by all accounts the money isn’t that important to him.

    Regarding his current form, he’s possibly just wrecked tired. His main goal at the start of the season was to reach the tour championship. I think the last 12 months is possibly catching up on him now and moreso the last 3 months. He played and travelled a lot in a short enough space of time. Someone mentioned his coach, or lack of a coach, and it’s not an issue. Simon is a +6 golfer and is as good as any coach as he knows Seamus’ game literally inside out. Seamus has spoken many times about how different coaches over the years just didn’t suit him and it’s only since he’s gone and done his own thing that his form has improved dramatically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    LIV wouldnt want Seamus. End of discussion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP


    Considering their goal is to have the 48 best players play, and he's ranked 39, I'm sure they would want him. They currently only have 5 players ranked higher than him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    They want the 48 most high profile players, not the best. They'd happily take him I'm sure, but I doubt they'd pursue him.


    From his point of view it would be a lot more understandable to see him go than the likes of poulter or mcdowall. I can't imagine he has millions in the bank like a lot of those others. Going into this tour would set him up for life. Whereas staying on the pga tour, if he has a dip in firm could actually eat into what he has earned.


    But I would lose a lot of respect for him if he goes. Some things are more important than financial security for your family.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    Because he simply doesnt fit the profile of the players that they have pursued

    Most golf fans in America or outside Ireland barely knows who he is. They would rather have Bernard Langer to just pick the most random....literally hundreds of players ahead of him from LIV point of view

    They would even want a college kid with massive potential ahead of him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP


    That's for the initial players but ultimately they'll want as many in the top 50 in the world as they can get.



  • Registered Users Posts: 399 ✭✭IAmTitleist


    Your first paragraph is based on what exactly? Do you know him personally? Genuine question btw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    Now you are completely working on YOUR opinion

    I based mine on facts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Are you trying to tell us that LIV haven't approached all players inside the worlds top 50 with a least 1 offer?? Look at some of the no named dross they have signed up in that last few months??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I'm sorry , you know who they've pursued and who they haven't?

    Can you share the insider info or is this pure opinion?

    Hes Irish so would take an entire countries following with him, he's irish so would take Irish American followers with him. He's inside the top 50 golfers in the world so would take status and talent with him.

    But emm yeah that doesn't fit the profile some randomer on the web has arbitrarily assigned...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭RoadRunner



    LIV's goal is to try get in the spotlight. They are snapping up the most well known golfers in the world rather than the best. They'd likely pay 5 times more to current world number 173 than to what Seamus would be offered. In saying that, I'm sure they would like to have another in the top 50 in their ranks.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    Ah lads, don't get carried away with yourself regarding seamus pull. If there's in any way a decent field he won't get much attention, unless he really gets himself into contention. Even in Ireland, we've been so blessed with top golfers he doesn't cross over the sport a whole lot. When we've had paddy, Rory, Gmac, Clarke and Shane all win majors and mcginley captain the ryder cup team, a barbasol win isn't going to capture the general public imagination. And even in the golf world he needs to stay at the level he's at and win a decent standard tournament at least to become a bit of a draw.


    Right now I'd say he's one of the least recognisable names in the top 100.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP


    You seem to have jumped from someone saying Seamus could play LIV to claiming we're saying Seamus is a huge name. You don't need to be a big name to get onto the LIV tour currently. We're not saying Seamus is going to get a 40 million contract or anything! Any player in the world's top 50 that wants to play LIV, could play LIV. What pull do Hennie Du Pleiss and Laurie Canter have?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    Fair enough. There was one post talking about the legions of fans he'd bring with him, but that's actually just one post.


    They'd certainly take him if he was willing to go. And when they're bumping people off to make room for the higher profile guys there will be others they'll bump pff before him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    I don't think anyone claimed Seamus was a top priority or anything but one poster was suggesting that LIV wouldn't go near Seamus and he claimed it as a fact. That's ridiculous as LIV would bite their hand off if a current world top 50 golfer was interested regardless of the profile...sure bloody Greg Norman spends the build up to each event tweeting how many of world top 100 players he has compared to other tours!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP


    Ah, missed that comment about him bringing lots fans.

    The more LIV can say "we have X number of players inside the Top 50/20/10", the more they start to legitimise themselves



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    They'd happily take him, but they wouldn't be making any outlandish offer for him at this stage. The smaller draws have probably missed their windows for significant signing on bonuses. If rory or jt or the like defected now they'd still get it. But someone like seamus would have to make do with the winnings.


    And every time we talk about the winnings we talk about how much they'd get for finishing last every week. Not everyone can come last! Even pat perez isn't finishing last every week.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I’m pally with a couple of his best pals from Dungarvan and Waterford. I’ve mentioned it in the past on this thread. I was at a wedding with some of them the week after the British Open and the LIV topic came up in conversation. Not one of them would think of him any differently if he did defect to LIV but it’s a total non runner.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    The last three lines of your post. You’re only kidding yourself with that comment. One of the most idiotic things I’ve ever read. I’m not calling you an idiot, I just think what you’ve written is totally idiotic.

    What on earth is more important than the financial security of your family?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭abff


    Just wondering what Seamus might need to do over the next 5 months to retain his place in the top 50 in the OWGR. The recent changes in how the OWGR system works have made it pretty much incomprehensible (which I guess may well be their objective), but Seamus has fallen to 42nd in the latest rankings and may not be high profile enough to get invited to those "wheelbarrow" events where there are easy pickings in both monetary and world ranking point terms.

    On the plus side, defections to the LIV tour may help his cause, unless LIV win their court case. Having said that, I guess the key thing is for Seamus to regain his mojo and start performing again at the level we have seen over the second half of last year and the first half of this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    Is he coming back to Europe now to try get Ryder Cup eligible?

    He doesnt hold a European card currently?

    The WGC events basically dont exist anymore.?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I think once he has his European Tour card, he only needs to play in certain events. I’m pretty sure if he doesn’t qualify automatically he’ll be a captains pick anyway, I don’t think there’s any way he could be left out.

    I reckon he’ll play in Wentworth, probably Abu Dhabi and Dubai as well. Not sure what the qualification criteria is but he’ll have it all worked out no doubt. I can’t see him come back for too many events, only the ones he really needs to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭paulos53


    He signed up for affiliate membership earlier in the year and is currently 34th in the Race to Dubai rankings. That will give him full membership next season.

    I am not 100% but I am fairly sure that affiliate members can earn ryder cup points and play in the end of season event in Dubai.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    Justin Rose was left out of the last team alongside other major winners.

    He's going to have to qualify to get in, I see little to no chance for a Captain's pick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭Pogue eile




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭paulos53


    With 6 Captain's picks, anybody in form next August/September has a decent chance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    Ah right, hadn't seen that the selection process was changed to 6, even so I would say Power is a longshot for a wildcard.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I reckon the whole landscape will have changed by this time next year. I think more and more players will end up going to LIV and eventually it will be younger players which will rule them out of the Ryder Cup. The Ryder Cup is a bit Micky mouse nowadays anyway so I think money will surpass any sort of pride some players have in it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭Innish_Rebel


    Guessing from Jon Rahm comments this week - 4 Majors + all WGC/Co-sanctioned events + 4 more DP tournaments to keep DP tour card???



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Yep, it's crazy the way the PGA has worked in the co-sanctioned events to keep their "stars" on the PGA tour schedule and guaranteed they'll all play the desert swings during PGA off seasons to keep the cards....



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    As it stands - power is in all of the majors + WGC events.

    Hell play the Irish open, I would imagine he’ll play Abu Dhabi and Dubai and then he needs to play one more which you’d expect would be the Scottish open next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    Any reason why Seamus is not in Wentworth this week? Are affiliate members not eligible or is it injury/scheduling? He is ranked 36th on the Race to Dubai list so a good few will pass him by this week.



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