Unsolved Irish Mysteries.

A man went missing in Fermoy in 1990 and his car and body was found in the Blackwater in 2012. From my understanding it was found near the diving club and it really shows how something could be hidden and go unnoticed in our waterways.

I read about a similar case in the North recently enough.

He would have had to cross the Dodder at some point to get to Serpentine Avenue.

I don’t know if the river levels were high, or not, but it’s still a river and always going to be a danger if someone enters on a night like that.

Always find it bizarre that the footage of the guy waiting before they get to the gate was never mentioned, until only a few years ago when the cleaned up footage was released.

It was only ever said that Trevor talked to someone briefly at the gate and the pictures released were a side on view but there was unreleased images of the guy looking directly in through the gate.

Is there any normal speed version of the last footage walking with the umbrella and the, potential, follower?

Cos he was locked drunk and didn’t even remember. Alternatively maybe is dead,no longer lives in Ireland or was too embarassed to come forward after such a long period.

Yeh and perhaps the fact that the "enhanced" cctv was still so crap he couldn't recognise himself. That could be anyone of us in that frame and we wouldn't know.

She was working or had been working as a prostitute and was using heroin or else was in recovery depending how you interpret the information contained in the article. Both of those issues would be relevant to the investigation I would have thought. She could have met her death at either the hands of a client or a drug dealer so making this information public would be necessary and not disrespectful to her or her family.

The failure of the Gardai to record the incident seems to be a catastrophic human error.

The most bizarre element of all is the reaction of the fellah who discovered the body. Instead of rushing to find the nearest telephone and alert the Gardai he decides to get back in his car and continue his journey to Cork. That is decidedly odd behaviour if ever I heard it.

The Trevor Deely case fascinates me, if I could choose one case to be solved it would probably be that one. Strangely, as someone who's big into true crime/unsolved mysteries I heard about this case many times down the years but never really looked much into it. That changed a few years ago when, I think it was the Irish Indo did a great long read article covering the case very well and had interviews with family members. I believe it was around the time of the 20th anniversary of his disappearance. After that I proceeded to hoover up every report, news article, podcast and YT video going on the case.

Still none the wiser as to what happened, it's such a sad and frustrating case. I would love for the family to one day get justice (tbh at this stage I'd say they would be willing to just accept where his remains are as unfortunately it would seem very unlikely he's still alive). If I had to put money on a theory it would probably be that poor Trevor encountered an unsavoury character(s), maybe he saw something he shouldn't have perhaps. Whatever happened, it must have warranted the perpetrators to get rid of the body as any other crime of opportunity or even an accident would mean those responsible fleeing the scene ASAP. Plenty of others who knew the area back then have commented it had its fair share of shady types but who knows.

Really hard to know what to make of the Man in Black outside the bank half an hour or so before Trevor arrives and if he is any way responsible. As others have pointed out, how could he have known Trevor was going to drop into the office on his way home and decided to wait there for him? Then again, it seems fairly coincidental he was hanging around outside, on his phone, then starts moving after Trevor passes him. If this person overheard him say in the pub he was heading back to the office, what would this person have in mind? Would they have thought it might have been an opportunity to get him to steal money? (This would be a big mistake on their part as it was an asset management bank that didn't hold cash as far as I'm aware so not sure what they thought they could get out of it).

Then for the MiB to engage Trevor by the gate (in what looks to be casual/non-threatening conversation). Also hard to know if that is then the same fella behind Trevor walking up Haddington Rd. Could very well be unrelated and a total red herring in the case.

I'd find it hard to believe the theories that involve him having fell into the river. I recall it being mentioned by Gardai that it seems very unlikely his body could have been swept out to sea, as others here have also pointed out. Another thing that also hasn't been noted is that Trevor would have been carrying a large bulky umbrella that most likely would have remained open/upright if he went into water. Surely somebody may have spotted that umbrella in the days after? Assuming it was one of those golf umbrellas, those things are usually fairly decent and sturdy.

Trevor was desperately unlucky, not only was the weather awful on the night and the taxi strike mean he had to walk home, his housemates were also away for the weekend so nobody really noticed him gone until he failed to show up at work again on the Monday. For all we know he could have made it home and something happened there or at any other stage over that weekend. As well as those, there was also an upcoming visit from Bill Clinton to Dublin shortly after he disappeared and apparently a clean up of the city was done so this could potentially explain any abandoned umbrellas or other personal items being gathered up as rubbish. It was also said that the video footage we saw was only obtained because friends/family of Trevor chased up the businesses for the CCTV footage. Other cameras along the route(s) he may have taken had their footage re-recorded over after a few weeks so this was more potential evidence lost.

Good write up of the case here : Trevor Deely - Last seen location. (oddstops.com)

Not from Dublin myself but would people more familiar with the area find it any way odd that he chose to continue walking along Haddington Rd. rather than turning down Lower Baggot St/Pembroke Rd.? Seems like, from looking at a map at least, he was taking a slightly longer/less direct route home.

Such a head wrecker of a case every theory seems to throw up more questions than answers.

My theory (based on absolutely nothing new!) is that the lad in black was out pimping. Red light district of Dublin, Fitzwilliam Square, Cumberland Rd etc. That area used to be littered with street walkers back then. But there was a storm that night so they wouldnt have been out on the streets. Pimp saw a young lad alone after a party, tried to get him as a customer, Trevor said no, maybe a "well gimme your wallet then", then an arguement and then killed.

Only thing that makes sense to me.

Wowzers! 5 years. I often wonder about cases such as this where someone just disappears, in this day and age with all the requirements of Identifying yourself to do most day to day activities, is it possible for people to just disappear and set up somewhere else under another name without some sort of official help? When people disappear it is usually due to a tragic circumstances such as accidents, suicide or murders or in some cases we have seen being kidnapped and kept locked away.

That's pretty much what I thought too. As i've said before the most simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

Not a bit strange on the late 1990s early 2000s when a work computer was the only access one had to email.

Plus there was a friend/colleague working the night shift, and he was getting an umbrella.

Nothing could be further from my mind at 4am pissed in the rain.

But he was walking past his office after at night out with work & one of his mate was in there working,

Could have dropped in to tell him some scandal form the night, or maybe someone mentioned something on the night out work wise that he forgot to do or thought he forgot to do , could be anything like that,

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Zero evidence to suggest this apart from the word of a criminal. And no body was ever found. Plus I can't see a criminal going to the bother of hiding a body. Even at that hour in Dublin it would be hard to have a confrontation like that with as gun going off and a body being bundled all the while nobody noticing. I wouldn't discount it but it just doesn't seem likely. Now if Trevor had an involvement in crime that it might be more plausible but that wasn't the case. Trevor was a good hard working lad.

Yes, all covered in The Irish Times pieces about the case.

Gardai even went to Alaska.