Unsolved Irish Mysteries.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424459#Comment_119424459

Its all speculation of course as nothing it know or proven,

In Jim Cusack piece in the Independent form 24 July 2016 , titled Did a jealous love rival kill Raonaid

He mentions the IRA times all in different parts of the piece ,

Firstly mentions the IRA "figure" with English connections ,then goes on to mentions other things and people , then mentions the Friend of Raonaid with a violent history & IRA "connections " moved "abroad" shortly after the incident & then later mentions how IRA protect its own ,Sound's like any logical person would read the piece and think is there a connection but strangely the writer never once tries to connect any of it or even knowledge a connections ,

Infact he goes out of his way to keep all these paragraphs apart , Like he is trying to say something but won't , WHY ?

Then in the youtube Docu Rainy in Glenagery it strongly speaks about that female friend & here violent past & issues ,

Nobody has ever said or mentioned what exact connections that girl had just "Family links to the IRA "

The piece never said anyone protected there family it said "the IRA has a long track record of protecting its own" meaning other IRA members ,

I don't have a theory am just quoting the piece in the paper

All speculation & just chat, it would be absolutely silly for people reading the case online to try blame anyone unfortunately none of us have any idea what happened

mazdamiatamx5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424512#Comment_119424512

You haven't provided any evidence of any family links of an alleged suspect to the former senior IRA figure. Do you have any? One assumes you do not believe his five year old son did it.

mazdamiatamx5

^ It depends on whether you find Cusack a credible journalist or not. I certainly don't.

mazdamiatamx5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424546#Comment_119424546

Yeah I entertained Emmet initially but he's obviously either a complete spoofer, someone who takes tabloid media pieces as gospel truth, someone who think cases can be solved on the net by a combination of speculation and political prejudice, or a combination of all three.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424608#Comment_119424608

Its just interesting piece ,that's all just something to talk about,

We can't blame or finger point at anyone , Its totally wrong from a human stand point

I recall one Jurno Gemma (forget her surname ) convinced it was another bloke who had previous issues with women .

Its an unsolved mystery for a reason we just don't have a clue what happened

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424649#Comment_119424649

But it can’t be ignored that, in previous threads discussing this case, the threads have gotten locked once the attention gets turned to this suspect.

And, if users want this thread to remain open it’s best to move on and not to talk about this case, except to offer condolences to the family.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119423280#Comment_119423280

I have no idea who he is.

mazdamiatamx5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424674#Comment_119424674

It can't be ignored that you are a merchandiser of b.s.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424523#Comment_119424523

I agree with you its all silly speculation & of course nobody has clue, All i done was quote the article & question it, I never once said it was anyone , that would be stupid and silly of me,

One thing i will say your completely misinterpreting is nobody ever said anything about a daughter I'm not sure where your picking that up from,

It was said the girl has family links to the IRA, not her father the senor IRA figure,

One thing we can be certain off is there was a female who was a suspect with previous violent episodes that hung around in Raonids group , Its been spoken about at length over the years , & also in the Documentary

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424699#Comment_119424699

Nope, just someone who doesn’t want this thread locked. As has happened previously.

mazdamiatamx5

Unsolved mystery: a high % of the Irish electorate still vote for parties who bankrupted the country twice. Weird that. Must be the largest case of Stockholm Syndrome ever unearthed.

chicorytip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119417861#Comment_119417861

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This was a strange disappearance. Alpho O' Reilly, a former head of design at RTE, simply vanished off the face of the earth In 1996. Not a trace of evidence or information or possible cause unearthed since.

Some of the mysteries mentioned in this thread have obvious possible explanations. Trevor Deely could have drowned accidentally. Fr. Niall Molloy was clearly beaten to death but by whom and the reasons why will probably remain a mystery.

Spanish Eyes

Going back a bit to the early 80's, the murder of Charles Self, set designer at RTE.

He was living in a house with the late Vincent Hanley who died of AIDS during the bad old days. Hanley was in London at the time of the murder.

No one was apprehended. There was another person staying in the house at the time, but claims to have heard nothing, even though a neighbour heard screams. Identikit sketches given by others, showed a man with curly dark hair. There has been speculation of a similarity with the person connected with GUBU events which happened around the same time.

Fascinating mystery. All at the time of extreme homophobia by the Gardai. Never solved.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/murder-in-monkstown-the-brutal-killing-of-charles-self-1.3126696

The greatest mystery for me is how so many people seem to know what happened and who the perpetrator was in certain incidents. For example Raonaid Murray, Fr Niall Molloy and I think the disappearance of Deirdre Jacob. My PM box is open! 😛

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424520#Comment_119424520

The oddest thing aside from the disappearance…. Is the alignment of two problems … taxi strike and terrible weather… no taxi strike… he doesn’t need to start what was going to be a 40 minute walk, he’s safe in a cab… popping into work for an umbrella and an email check / natter…. all would have just played into the hands of the perpetrator….their timing….. unlucky..

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424798#Comment_119424798

The people fear bankruptcy less then they fear the crowd who have defended and supported murder, murderers and criminals… many of whom walk in their ranks..today… quite rightly

they fear bankruptcy less then they fear a party who campaign very actively for the abolition of the Special Criminal Court..they only abstained on the vote recently to save face….they knew they had to…

Hangdogroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424491#Comment_119424491

He was tried and convicted of the latter years later.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119426205#Comment_119426205

Ireland is a very small place , most people know a Garda or someone who is close to the victims, so word travels fast ,

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119426389#Comment_119426389

I hadn't you down for a ffgbot but there you go.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119426937#Comment_119426937

I’ve never given FG a vote in my life and the FF party have not received a vote from me in over a decade, so there you go ;)

don’t have to be a bot of any kind able to see through SF and their ilk.

think it’s a strange mindset, after a night out, drinks, chatting, craic and conviviality, to enter your workplace and start reading email, bit of a comedown I’d imagine. I’d say frowned upon to in most jobs.. alcohol and in work on a PC

The Continental Op

Spoiler alert - Wikipedia - Category:Missing person cases in Ireland

jill_valentine

think it’s a strange mindset, after a night out, drinks, chatting, craic and conviviality, to enter your workplace and start reading email, bit of a comedown I’d imagine. I’d say frowned upon to in most jobs.. alcohol and in work on a PC

It would be officially frowned upon but not entirely unknown to drop into the office and "check your email" when you're trying to warm up/dry off/sober up/use the loo. It probably wouldn't be allowed now though.

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119428252#Comment_119428252

Usually the most simplistic explanation / solution is the right one. I don't think it would be too far off here but it's the lack of leads which make it so intriguing. Hopefully the family will get answers yet.

Unnecessary commas!

Invoking the IRA is the Irish equivalent of "I think it could be the mob".

Trevor Deeley is a really haunting one. The man who waited at the bank gate for half an hour in that terrible weather at 3am, then got moving when Trevor arrived... why the hell was he waiting for him and then trying to start a conversation with him.

The "vanishing triangle": the two Fionas - seems obvious who was behind their disappearances, ditto Ciara Breen, who wasn't in that area at all (mid east and south east Leinster) - she was up in Louth. Annie (again, a 'Ra connection attempted), Jojo and Deirdre though - very strange. Eva Brennan (Terenure) and Imelda Keenan (Waterford city - close to County Kilkenny) are sometimes included. Also very strange. I'd be most surprised if Murphy wasn't involved in at least one. Along with a beast called John Crerar. Antoinette Smith (from Tallaght, last seen O'Connell Street in 1987) - horrendously her remains were found in the foothills of the Wicklow Mountains the following year. Sometimes she is included in the list of women also.

When they vanished, Murphy was aged between 21 and 32.

And Philip Cairns - I think Cooke was involved (why wouldn't the Savile-esque bastard be? It's believed he actually did have provo links to help bolster his reign of fear) but crikey it doesn't seem like it'll ever be solved.

Out west:

Barbara Walsh - serious case of "Someone knows something": https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0622/1230675-barbara-walsh-investigation/

Ditto Joe Deacy - poor young fella: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/wall-of-silence-surrounds-death-of-young-gaa-player-joe-deacy-familysay-at-fourth-anniversary-event-in-co-mayo-40753889.html

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119427864#Comment_119427864

Lol, you don't support that crowd - which must mean you support the other crowd. Ffs. As if it's not possible not to support either.

Regarding Trevor though - the reason he went to his office was to get an umbrella. Fair walk home for that hour on a horrible night. And the umbrellas which banks have are those grand big golf ones so they're good and sturdy for the strong winds. While he was in there, he had a cuppa with the lad who got stuck on the night shift, and I think he may have been waiting there for other colleagues to join him too. They arrived but didn't go inside, so they missed each other.

Therefore, because he was hanging around for a bit, I guess maybe he thought he'd give himself a head start for the hangover he'd be enduring at work five hours later. Little bit of damage limitation.

It does seem strange today for sure - I highly doubt it would be permitted now for a staff member, not scheduled to work, to just rock in and hang out for a bit in the middle of the night, but I worked in a bank at the time, and it's unbelievable how casual it was. And this was a cash branch - I don't think Trevor's office held cash at all.

jill_valentine

It does seem strange today for sure - I highly doubt it would be permitted now for a staff member, not scheduled to work, to just rock in and hang out for a bit in the middle of the night, but I worked in a bank at the time, and it's unbelievable how casual it was. And this was a cash branch - I don't think Trevor's office held cash at all.

I know during Lockdown, when there weren't any public toilets, there were a lot of "emails being checked" after hours in the office buildings within frantic walking distance of the canal can get-togethers, so it isn't entirely a thing of the past.

mazdamiatamx5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430923#Comment_119430923

Re Trevor Deely, I’d assumed until recently he had fallen into the canal while under the influence of a few sups on a windy night, but the CCTV footage of the bloke seemingly waiting outside the bank and then following him is indeed freaky.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119431196#Comment_119431196

This was indeed the assumption - I mean his walk took in a good bit of the Grand Canal, and slippery surfaces from heavy rain, and as you say, the strong winds and a night on the sesh like any 22-year-old at his work Christmas party... but the garda diving team combed the waterways. They were asked whether it would be possible for someone to be swept out to sea, given the number of days and the strong winds, but the senior Garda diving guy discounted this, as there are barriers in the canal.

mazdamiatamx5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119431199#Comment_119431199

I still think it’s most likely explanation but the stuff that was floated in the media a few years back that he might have inadvertently pissed off a gangland figure, I don’t discount it.

baggot street was quite sleazy back then, was a 24 hour spar where various odd characters hung around. The Abrakeb was pretty rough, some of the ladies of the night were not the type of gals you’d take home to your mum . Some of the more naive members of the forum may not believe this, but that’s how it was. I used to work on Waterloo road and then on grand parade early 90s to 2004 (no, not that type of work, lol) did plenty of socialising in the area too.

to this day I believe the Lap dancing joint on leeson st is owned by a v dodgy character, Google is your friend on this one. I know for a fact it still was in 2012.

all of the nightclubs on the Leeson street strip without exception were paying protection to various gangsters (maybe still are for all I know, the few that are left).

Hangdogroad

Not so much a mystery as a far fetched story about four fellas from Cavan including three brothers who supposedly were pulled alive from the rubble of the Twin Towers. It did the rounds of the Irish media, including RTE news, in the days and weeks after 9-11 then was slowly dropped when no evidence of the existence of these mystery Cavanmen was forthcoming. It was largely driven by Sinn Fein TD Caoimhghin O Caoláin who claimed to know the guys and the families but refused to name them.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-30024759.html