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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,599 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This video clearly shows two major simultaneous explosions at the airbase, possibly a couple of hundred metres away from each other - strongly suggesting a missile attack.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Hmm. I don't know. I've seen something like this before, and it looks very, very like timed charges. Those explosions are milliseconds apart. It would be extremely coincidental if two missiles were launched and reached their targets at exactly the same time. Possible, though. They could also be AGM-88's. Fired as a salvo from a back-engineered Western missle rail on a Flanker. Even though these are anti-radiation missiles ( HARMS), co-ordinates can be preloaded into the software before flight. The targets do not have to be emitting radar waves. The Ukranian aviation industry can he very innovative! I'm guessing either SF-set timed charges, or a salvo of HARMS from either a fighter, or some other industrious means.


    Could be totally wrong, of course!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Is anyone up on the overall situation. Is Russia making ground or Ukraine pushing them back? Is it essentially a stalemate?

    Cannot really find an overall up to date view



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,599 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Watching the video, it's clear there had already been several explosions on the airfield (which is why people like this one started filming from several kilometres away). Talk that there may have been as many as 8-10 explosions in total seems plausible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    You would wonder why the families of Russian invaders are even their. Could be something to do with certain staged referendums being planned their?

    Of course thats ok according to some people because the people will get to vote on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    I have close relations of family who are there on "holidays", from Moscow. Relations who have/had certain positions in the Nazi army. Apparently they are not leaving. Do they have a choice is what I wonder



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Hopefully we may see the Ukranian side make some progress in the Kherson region soon enough, seems that they are taking out several strategic bridges, and might be starting to spook the Russians their at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Here's an update from 30 mins ago..



    large assault expected from Ukraine.

    Can't be 100% sure of this source though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Poster Jackboy has been talking up the 'nuke' threat previously.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Maybe a Ukraine Special Forces job? Could they have placed explosives at strategic spots?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Could be as simple as sappers deployed behind enemy lines to cause havoc on targets. Happed to find the base guarded by a load of drunks. I mean you would want a decent amount of time to set that up the way it goes up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Massive amount of air power lost in a single day. The Russians we're not using them to the best of their abilities but to loose a massive amount in 1 day the ordinary Russian soldier will notice them gone from the Battlefield.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭jackboy


    😂 Yes, we should ignore that on a week that a nuclear plant was bombed and warnings of nuclear war on the news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Thats some amount of boom for a few lads with backpacks of explosives, you'd want to get very luck with your placements



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    This image is identical to the Google Earth image from mid-2021. I'd be sceptical.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Possibly. As a previous poster mentioned, there is limited security around perimeter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Here's something interesting. I used Playback on FR24 to see what aircraft were operational at the time of the explosions in Crimea. So, yesterday Monday, at 12.20,

    Both a Global Hawk....

    Screenshot_20220809-215729_Flightradar24.jpg

    ....and a US Navy EP3 Orion were both monitoring Crimea. At the same time....

    Screenshot_20220809-215702_Flightradar24.jpg

    This is most unusual to have both looking at the same area. Then today around the time of the explosions, the EP-3 is back, together with a KC-135 on CAP near the Moldovan border. This is a clear indication that it was refueling other assets with their transponders off. May not be connected, bit some interesting activity in the lead-up to, and during, the attack. Today's snapshot...

    Screenshot_20220809-220733_Flightradar24.jpg

    KC-135 is the following...

    Screenshot_20220809-220720_Flightradar24.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭purplefields


    It certainly brings us closer to a nuclear threat, if it was Ukraine that did this. - like any escalation in this war.

    During the cold war, there were many instances where we can close to nuclear war. Mistakes can be made.

    Regarding the power plants - Chernobyl had fail safes, as did Fukushima. These two accidents happened because of human error and natural events. How good are the fail safes if the plant is actually being bombed? Operators will be under pressure, mistakes can be made or critical cooling infrastructure could be destroyed. They didn't bomb the plants when they were testing the fail safes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,599 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Those were massive explosions in those videos. Clearly something significant was being hit on the ground - either aircraft or munitions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,419 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Shrapnel damage to a car in the carpark at the airbase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭jmreire


    For sure Russia is not currently winning, and these long range weapons are game changers. so if the Russians are not advancing, or only at a snails pace, then they are losing, and TBH, I think that ultimately Ukraine will win. If the Russian ammo dumps are being destroyed, faster then they can be replaced, there can be only one outcome for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    It would not surprise me if they keep the aircraft fully loaded out obviously with safeties in. Ukrainians could have got wind of Air to ground mission. With 500lb bombs or bigger. It was some bang. I'm not sure If the Russians use a centralised Ammo storage or several spread out on the facility. But something big went off. Seems a bigger explosion than we have seen in some of the ammo dumps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    lol shrapnel. That looks like a structural steel girder. Some force to shift that. could there have been thermobaric weapons on site ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Russia Iran have launched a satellite for surveillance on ukraine, could be of big benefit to russia when your looking at how good ukraines intelligence has been so far



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭thomil


    As others have said, it's effectively a stalemate at the moment.There's increasing indication that Ukraine is preparing a major push into Russian territory, recent HIMARS/M270 strikes against Russian ammunition and supply dumps, command centres, the bridges across the Dnieper in Kherson as well as today's strike against Nova Fedorivka air base in Crimea seem a lot like "battlefield preparation" strikes to me, but so far, the actual offensive has not kicked off.

    It seems like Kherson Oblast might be the focus of any future Ukrainian push. Ukraine has been making small gains there since the spring, and the region is the only Russian bridgehead west of the Dnipro meaning that even before the strikes against the Antonivka bridge and others, Russian troops in Kherson were at the far end of a rather tenuous supply line. Even by "just" pushing the Russians back to the eastern bank of the Dnipro would bring many supply roads from Crimea north towards the Donbas into range of Ukrainian artillery. More crucially though, it would present a massive threat to the North Crimean Canal, a major source of fresh water for Crimea that starts at the Nova Kahovka dam on the Dnipro. Cutting off the canal again would cause significant water shortages on the peninsula. So all in all, a push in Kherson offers a lot of strategic advantages, especially since Russia"s focus appears to remain concentrated on the Donbas, leaving Kherson as a comparatively softer target.

    I'd also recommend keeping an eye on the YouTube channel of the Bundesheer, the Austrian Armed Forces. Most of their videos are in German, but every month or so, they publish an English language recap of the developments in Ukraine. These presentations are made by Colonel Markus Reisner, Head of R&D at the Theresian Military Academy in Wiener Neustadt, Austria's counterpart to the likes of Sandhurst or West Point and are generally really good to catch up on developments:

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,599 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    A new theory tonight is that ammunition storage bunkers were hit precisely by missiles - but this would have had the added bonus of course of blowing up many aircraft and helicopters parked nearby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Fair enough but that beam if from the event. Looks more like something from WW2 ammo factory going up. There must have been some serious amount of munitions there. I mean If you have that amount of firepower being stored should be off base as the risk to the delivery platforms is stupid. I mean what they could have lost nearly 1bn in planes and helicopters. Advance rader station, Command and control systems. The list goes on. I would have thought modern doctrine would only store a few sorties worth of munitions and more storage risks the Entire base as just seen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,419 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    More from the carpark of the airbase.

    *Climb the fence ffs and have a look around. 🤣



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