Why didn't cancel culture happen in Ireland?

Cos we do begrudgery instead! That way nobody needs to be cancelled.

Yes Nelson's Column taken out long before it became fashionable 😁

It did.

In years past, Al Porter and Eoghan McDermott would have been cheered on for being 'characters', for the allegations against them. As it was, they got cancelled professionally and socially, before any due process had played out.

The 2 Johnnies just about got away with it. Its been attempted with others like Glenn Hansard over suggested impropriety, Tommy Tiernan over Traveller jokes, Davy Fitz for being a little bollix, Twink for being Twink etc etc etc.

In a spiteful begrudging little Country like Ireland, you'd better feckin believe cancel culture is alive and well.

You think cancel culture is a new thing? Ask Alan turing about that!

If anything it's a lot milder now than it ever was, years ago if you were cancelled you probably died in poverty and shame. Now they will give you a slot on gb news and you get 50k new followers on twitter

George Hook got cancelled for trying to encourage girls to be safe (but he phrased it wrong)

The 2 Northern Irish Rugby guys got cancelled for texting their mates about girls

Kevin Myers got cancelled for pondering aloud (his job)

Lots and lots of people have had to apologise or back down from having an opinion for BS things they said.

Cancel culture is alive and well here. Not as extreme as some other countries (mainly because there is not as much to "cancel"), but if you become a target here, if you don't follow up with an immediate apology and withdrawal of whatever opinion/mannerism that rubbed certain groups up the wrong way, then you can expect to get a one-way ticket to canceltown.

They got cancelled, especially Kevin Myers.

Veteran journalist, always edgy ,maybe said a few things over the top that he might apologise later for or reflect on, but did he deserve lose his career, be cancelled off the airwaves and broadsheets?

He even had Jewish groups say he wasnt an anti semite but to no avail. I think he should have been given a,chance to move on. The punishment was far worse than the sin.

Read the newspapers and look at the national airwaves, full of bland talking points. Its left or left left of center. Thats it. Theres no public figures on the right of center to get cancellled even. Where is the Irish Piers Morgan? Doesn't seem to exist. At least the British provide different viewpoints and debate more openly. Piers got cancelled a couple of times but he is still kicking.

What Ireland do you live in, Poster?

Ever hear of writer John McGahern and books of literature being banned in Ireland?

Or Section 31, where the majority of Nationalist leaders in the North were not allowed on any Radio or TV station in the South?

Try voicing an anti-vax opinion or questioning Drag Queens reading to kids on RTÉ and see how it ends up.

Censorship is alive and well in Ireland. Using terms from the US like 'cancelling' just confuses the unthinking.

For example: minimum alcohol pricing. This was passed with basically no dissent even though it was a blatant attack on the poor and the Scottish precedent demonstrates no health benefits.

See also: criminalisation of payment for sex- again, the political class and ‘official Ireland’ was pretty much in unison on this, even though the Nordic model doesn’t make prostitutes safer and until a few years ago the PC consensus was that it should be legalised.

Also: the proposal to criminalise ‘protest’ outside all medical centres. This is a massive infringement on the right to free association but the political and media establishment are fully behind it

yeah imagine people not wanting to associate professionally with some who thinks it is acceptable to grope other men.

The thread, in case you haven't noticed is about the existence of cancel culture in Ireland, not the reasons behind it. If you do want to get to the reasons behind it there are far worse people and organisations that deserve the wrath of the looney left in this country than Sean Russell.

Lets start with Fine Gael, if you want to cancel someone who tried to use the Nazis in a fight for Irish freedom then surely you'll want to cancel the party that were actual Nazi's the whole package salute and all. Or maybe you should get your rainbow paint out and cover every Catholic Church in Ireland for the years of oppression, homophobia, sexual abuse, misogony and on and on🤑

Would have been delighted if the 2 johnnies got cancelled. They are the embodiment of RTE merchandizing - literally created out of thin air, publicised to death and forced down the throats of everyone.

I honestly kept an open mind about them and watched a few of... whatever the fk it is that they do and it was TERRIBLE. They must be the unfunniest, unlikable pair who have ever been undeservedly thrust into the limelight against the will of everyone.

His latest missive about the funeral of David Trimble is a sight to behold. He barely mentions the deceased. Instead he spend most of the article saying how everybody else there thinks he's a great lad.

It is because we Irish value and respect our history and because enslavement was not a big thing here like it was in the UK and USA.

Yes some people maybe should not have had a staue dedicated to them the same way as some should but never have like Micheal Collins for instance should have a statue dedicated to him in Dublin. Anyway throwing the statue or whatever it is of someone in the water or hiding it is not going to change that history. It has happened. Get over it move on and learn from them mistakes

You can not learn from your history if you fail to acknowledge that it happened and you will them be prone to making more mistakes like that again.

No downplaying at all.

The rugby guys chatted about rugger huggers in the exact same manner that anyone with a brain would expect young rugby lads to chat about rugger huggers. If you don't like the language/tone/laddish behaviour, then don't read their private, intimate, personal messages. But demanding that they have their lives destroyed is just disgusting, bullying behaviour and is the definition of cancel culture.

Kevin Myers job is to be provocative and to use provocative language/questions. If you don't like that sort of journalism, then don't read it or listen to him. But demanding he be fired and made a pariah is disgusting, bullying behaviour and is the definition of cancel culture.