Parking and traffic in Phoenix Park

30 is a good compromise?

Between 50 and what?

Through traffic being stopped entirely.

If drivers won't agree to compromise then neither will the OPW. They closed the ave before when they rebuilt it. Took their good time about reopening it. Almost a year.

As I've said before many times on many threads on this Forum - start implementing genuine alternatives before restricting capacity.

More carrot, less stick.

Oh, and public transport in the City that isn't infested with the scum of the Earth would be good too. Thanks in advance Eamon.

-Hi guys, let's make things a bit safer and more convenient for alternatives like cycling and buses. It'll mean taking road space from cars though.

-**** that, Larbre34 the hypocrite will lose his ****, check under his bed and decry the greens are declaring a war on motorists.

-But isn't that the sensible thing to be doing?

-Yeah, but it may inconvenience him and he'll never stop whinging.

-And aren't SF the majority party in DCC, what's he on about?

- Not so much now, used to have the lord mayor until recently but their policy wasn't a whole lot different. It's the green scare don't you know. The commies don't have a thing on them.

-What's his solution?

Start implementing alternatives?

-Erm...

-I know, but I think he just means alternatives that don't inconvenience him in his car.

-FFS.

-I know.

Well it's a park with kids, families, a zoo, a school. The OPW can set any speed they like at the end of the day.

And yet currently you have the 30k that OPW wanted.

The minister claims is being adhered to despite reports that it isn't.

So good luck with that fantasy.

They got their road closures and one way though.

I don't think "I can't drive at 30k" is going to hold much sway.

This isn't correct, at all.

The evidence is in that text you quoted.

"Consultation with" is not the same as "has to have the approval of"

I've spent 30 years building new developments.

In all that time, I've liaised with City and County Councils on the engineered design for the road network of them and appropriate speed limits. That has involved the local Traffic Consultation group, consisting of the Area Planner, the Area Traffic Engineer from the Council and the Divisional Garda Roads Policing Inspector (or his delegate of rank no lower than Sergeant).

You can take it from me (or don't, I couldn't give a ****), if the Gardaí don't like a proposed limit, for any reason, such as being unenforceable or otherwise inappropriate, it DOES NOT happen.

Just popped in to see what this was all about and it seems to be this gentleman ranting about the junior Government party like they were the illuminati. No evidence to support any of this, I live in Castleknock and I’m not remotely inconvenienced, in fact the park is a delight lately, the fewer cars the better and they can go at walking speed for all I care

Any nobody will deny that new developments in the last 30 years have been pretty poor for a whole variety of reasons, particular in terms of sustainable transport.

So your declaration will hold little sway if it's a way for you to try claim you know what you're talking about.

I was in the park over the weekend, and it was a delight. Car didn't combust due to the low speeds either.

Says it all really.

Costello contending that because traffic travels closer to 50 than that pilot limit of 30, the Avenue resembles a motorway, makes him sound a complete moron.

Its shyte like this that puts people off the Green Party's agenda. Rather than want to bring people along, they prefer to preach at them for breathing.

Ryan's pending announcement of carbon targets that will savage business and agriculture just at the time its already being pummelled every which way, could well sound the death knell of Green Party public representation. Again.

There are so many silly horses in this race I was just addressing the one about everyone in Castleknock being inundated by cars parking in the locality because of reduced parking in the park - I live beside the park and I’ve had zero issues.

There are multiple parking options, generous available spaces and complete access. Funny that people say they can’t walk in the park but then are unwilling to walk from a designated car park.