Brexit discussion thread XIV (Please read OP before posting)

Whichever EU-based scientific projects next-in-line (-applying for H grants) are most deserving.

Allocation is not country-biased, it is project team’s skillset- and project’s outcomes-biased, according to compatibility with EU R&D objectives.

Besides, team members in any given EU research team are frequently well-distributed across the EU member states, these days. What with EU-driven FoM, qualification recognition, data regulations, etc.

I assume the NIP is safe now with today's news. The imminent "next week next week" nonsense is surely on hold at least.

DUP will again be forgotten about across the water now that they have real things to worry about.

Actually, I expect more of the same tactics from the next tory brexit pm

As someone involved in the meat industry.

The highest quality and standards in Western Europe would be us by a large margin,then Britain, then Germany back a bit, the rest have a deliberate lax approach to them.

That’s as may be, and you can take it as an indication of each country’s academic prowess, capacity to host teams (in part or whole) and to administer/‘sell’ projects.

As said, attribution is not based on a (specific) country nor its size, whether in population or GDP.

You can have a large country with relatively low academic potential (say, Italy or Poland) and a tiny country with exceptional academic potential (say, Luxembourg or the Netherlands), whereby the tiny country gets more grants.

Poland is a bit of an outlier in there, they are increasingly facing ‘soft’ sanctions due to their ongoing populist-driven constitutional spat with the jurisdiction of the CJEU. Which may go some way to explain the low attribution in recent times.

That said, I work with the University of Luxembourg and regularly interface with a tech transfer person there, who joined them from Poland not so long ago - and whose evidence, all anecdotal that it is, matches your observation and my present reply (Poland is large and has decent academia, but they’re not great with modern/current research topics, transnational coordination and grant application-making).

So LU, NL and FI get more grants.

So IT, PL and RO have their work cut out: manage academia better to enhance their competitiveness relative to LU, NL and FI.

No such thing as a free lunch.

I wouldn't let the requirement to have German put you off applying as I know people who applied for posts with such conditions only to get the job and find themselves in an international team where English is the common medium. I've know people attempt to improve what German they have but colleagues prefer not to have to teach German as well as meet deadlines.

Just as an aside, I heard the theory today that the reason Johnson wants to hang on is because he has Chequers booked for the wedding party that he couldn't have during Covid (because of course you couldn't have parties during covid). (On Phil Moorehouse's A Different Bias)

@joeysoap wrote What did slightly surprise me though was that British musicians could tour pretty much freely in Europe despite leaving (Roger Daltry was actually mentioned as one)

That seems at odds with what the UK musicians union are saying. And Roger Daltry has signed a letter from many musicians complaining about the situation ( interesting that Daltry is a Brexiteer and earlier had argued that Brexit would have no affect on UK musicians )

They certainly need a work permit for Spain and Germany. In fact I think that , without an EU agreement, UK musicians are subject to each countries separate legal requirements for non EU workers. Some countries require permits and some don't.

The Brexiters in parliament will never commit to EU standards because the whole point of Brexit was to draw the UK down to US levels for the sake of profit.

Immigrants and all that were just to whip up regular folk but the true drivers of Brexit were rich people upset about losing money due to the EUs high standards and rights.

You correctly mention smaller bands and the issues they'll have touring compared to the likes of Daltrey etc.

It gets even worse for the 'starter' bands or session musicians - those who aren't big enough to even have the concept of a mapped-out tour (and this is the majority of the industry). It used to be that you'd start out in Germany or wherever, and hope to pick up gigs on an ad hoc basis - an English bar in Vienna, a student pub in Milan, a weekend festival in Copenhagen, whatever whenever. Always available to go wherever you were asked at 24 hours notice. Close to impossible now.

But they have arrived "got on with Brexit". It's done. The train has reached the terminus. They've got what they wanted.

You couldn't have had the brexit mantra of "take back control" if the standards weren't perceived to be onerous.

The creator of the Bendy Banana meme won a parliamentary majority to unbind Britain from brussels red tape, or standards to you and me.

That's a good example. The bendy banana rule was made up by Boris. And he benefited from it. It's hard to counter made up rules.

The brexiters could "perceive" whatever they wanted and vote to leave accordingly. That is a problem with Brexit (and why few leavers are happy with it). Ask 10 brexiters why they voted to leave and yould probably get 10 different answers.

this is clear most people have no idea what eu is about, all they know is they are not getting richer while in eu so they where easy to be persuaded that the eu is the problem ....

now they will see the eu is not the problem ,they and their government is .

ignorance is the much bigger problem