Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

UhOh I know you from the EV forums I think?, you are a nice chap there, nice new i4 isnt so a man of some means.

Yeah its an odd situation that getting a Rolex is. Spend history is a thing. I have a very healthy spending history (in my opinion) and I have gotten exactly sweet **** all thats worth my time, its a madness to the point I took my disposable off to a different hobby. There are lads out there that are treating this as a business and buying 10 watches a month on credit cards, selling them off for a small loss and repeating. Literally 100's of thousands through the AD a year. These fellows get thrown all the good watches. Its a shocking state of affairs.

Been on a list for a Daytona now 7 years, Sky-dweller 4 years, Aquanaut for 2 years, not a sniff. And I spend mid tier 5 figures a year on jewelry and other watches (actually spent, done with that **** now). I know guys spend 200k in a single pop on dress Pateks and they get the good watches fairly quick like 2-3 months. I am like most infuriated that I cannot spend my money as I want, but Unkle is right.

Mostly I just went to the grey market and bought what I wanted, my time is more valuable than being waiting on a list. . But have been put on many many lists by many many sales people (as they wrapped up my wifes latest trinket, or my latest "relationship piece") and told me the watch I actually wanted was "just year away", "you're next on the list sir" and I walked away with lots of enthusiasm and a spring in my step for my impending new watches. Never got them but left happy...the very purpose of the waiting list (no such thing BTW its only a preferred client list). Probably I ask for watches that are just outside my spending history, but thats kind of a catch 22 isnt it.

Hell so many friends text me all the time " I am getting a sub at retail in 6 months" my standard reply is "you are in your hole". There are people just wait and get the watches, and you might be lucky. But if you asking for anything heavy like a Pepsi or a blue SD you dont have a hope unless you are a big and regular spender, and most big spenders know all about the wait lists already (kinda of a if you have to ask, your not thing). If its a sub or a batman of something modest you are after then maybe the wait time is realistic.

My advice just get the watch you want grey, the market is tanking at the moment and you will pay only a small premium over retail for most watches, and your dignity will remain intact, its not a game worth playing or you will end up jaded like me and overspending on things you dont really want.

Waiting list watches are like fusion energy....always 5 years away.

@Fitz II "Mostly I just went to the grey market and bought what I wanted, my time is more valuable than being waiting on a list..."

This is me as well. My dignity and time are worth far more than indulging some sales person in Weirs by buying things I do not want. I've sourced a couple of decent enough grey dealers over the years and they are where I go. And thankfully prices seem to be moderating and even falling. I've my eye on an Explorer 1, probably a 124270, And whereas I wouldn't pay 4k over retail, I would pay 2k, and that is looking more likely recently.

Had to look that up, pretty cool

A phone call will tell you if they can ship them. Otherwise if they are in stock, you could always go collect them presuming you're not that far away. It's an easy enough spin up from Dublin. Best of luck with the big day!

I have two pairs at home you are welcome to either if you think they are similar to what you’re looking for and can’t get the others in your timeframe. Drop me a PM and I’ll chuck them in the post if you need.

I like it. Cant afford it but I get it. RM are actually innovativee with their use of materials and designs. They are not to my tastes andmassivelyy overpriced, but thats an impressive bit of watchmaking. Tried on my first RM recently in Belfast an RM11 and it did exactly nothing for me. However if you want to wear a house on your wrist both in value and size for a lot of them...then rock on and more power to you.

I am a big fan of formula 1 and everyone...all the drivers, owners, managers and team leaders wear RM....its really taking that motorsport crown. And Rapha rocks his one...but he is rapha the GOAT.

Not overly exciting, I thought it would be something a bit more special.

Tragically boring....as if an explorer was not plain enough, lets take it to another level of bland.

Not serious, the only way to make the ranger more boring was to turn it into a “collection”. Zzzzzzzz

I was really, really hoping for a polar Blackbay Pro 😕

Jesus maybe it’s actually alright as that lads sense of Style is questionable

I prefer it to an explorer and spec wise is no different, plus it’s €3k versus what €9ish for an explorer .I’d definitely take it over an explorer

Just got a text to say I owe customs on two kids tops which I shouldn't as they are supposed to be vat free under 12.

Do I remember someone here getting charged for books despite them also being vat free on import and claiming it back

I posted about being charged vat on two books from the uk.I didn’t argue it and just paid it as I wasn’t prepared to deal with what would no doubt be a long drawn out disagreement and having to prove customs wrong .

I am reasonably confident that if I buy from Norway that there's no VAT or Duty as it's an EEA/EFTA? Am I correct in that assumption? And if I am, can someone do me the favour of talking me out of buying another Sinn U2 😮😂

Buy retail and claim the VAT back. Someone in here got one I think with 20% discount a year or two ago in Weir's, but that would be very best case scenario. Ask for the 20%, negotiate, see how much you get.

Are you sure about the 1085 though? It looks nice but it has a sausage dial, not the sandwich dial Panerai are famous for. It's a bit like buying a FWD BMW 😂

Weirs probably isn’t going to be the place to get a healthy discount. Presume you can buy pre owned from watchfinder and still reclaim the vat ?

go for the 1313

Not sure actually maybe not. Could be worth an email to wf and co anyway.

I’ve the 1084. Same watch , different colour dial . Sandwich dial is nicer but certainly wouldn’t let the sausage dial put you off. The panerai that made panerai famous has a sausage dial and the 1086 is the closest in appearance to it . The 1086 is same as 1084 just without small seconds.

I reckon you could get 10% off in weirs but if you are going to Italy , try get to Florence and go to the panerai flagship store / museum and buy one there .That’s my plan for my next Panerai purchase anyway .

Neither of those bother me. In fact I nearly bought a 1085 myself but I felt the sausage dial was too much of a compromise. But hey, I'm no purist. I could very well one day buy one.

That's a beautiful one Schwarz. That and the 1313 are 2 of the most eye-catching in their current lineup. The bracelet would swing it for me tho 👍

The bracelet wears well , substantial and a bit of weight to it as you would expect .It really dresses the watch up compared to the straps .Theres no quick adjustment on it though which at €9k I would of expected and the fact that its a new release bracelet you would think they would have included it.

My 1084 has the luminor case with the slab sides vs the 1316 having the 1950s style case which is much nicer. After handling it I could really see how entry level a model mine is.

Yes the micro adjustment issue has put me off panerai bracelets in the past, no excuse in this day and age.

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