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  • Registered Users Posts: 35 CCCHIA


    Hello everyone

    I'm preparing for a FET cycle in July, just wondering if you could give me an idea of what the process will be like. I have been to my consultant and know I'll be on hormones, is it estrogen first for 2 weeks from CD1 and then onto progesterone?

    On what day approx do they do the transfer and is there scans in between?

    Also, I'm taking Pregnacare Pre-Conception and Evening Primrose oil (only from CD1-14). What else can I take to help or what else did you do to prepare for FET?

    Apologies for all the questions!
    TIA
    Eileen

    Hi Eileen!

    I did a FET last April (last year) and now I’m doing a night feed for my 5 month old! My little frozen miracle.

    Firstly I just want to commend you, IVF etc is had but to do it during a pandemic adds an extra stress so you are a superstar to begin with!

    Protocols, meds and even processes differ from clinic to clinic so I would ask to speak to a nurse/doctor to understand what exactly is in store for you - be as annoying as you want with your questions because at the end of the day you are paying big big money for this service and you deserve to have all the information you want.

    For me, I never had issues with the lining of the womb so like you said I started with Estrogen and then about 8/9 days later I started with Progesterone (injectable) which I remained on until week 14 of my pregnancy. I was scanned after around then too (I think) to make sure the lining was thickening and triple layered. When it was ready, it was time to transfer- I’d you haven’t done this yet it’s really painless and easy so don’t sweat it.

    All in all, FETs are not as traumatic as a fresh collection so do not stress. Often FETs are often more successful as your body is more relaxed as you’re not aggressively growing follicles so focus on those positives.

    I personally didn’t take any special vitamins - prob just a tool a multivitamin and folic acid.

    I wish you the very best of luck and don’t forget to bombard the clinic with questions - you deserve to know exactly what’ll be happening to you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Hi CCCHIA

    Thanks for the response. I'm just so ready at this point to go ahead with it, I've about 6 weeks yet before I can start so hopefully the virus has backed off more by then :-)

    I was there earlier in the year and they said 2 weeks of meds... I just forgot to ask around what point the transfer would be. Like you they definitely mentioned estrogen and progesterone.

    Thanks so much


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Sunflower_10


    Hi everyone, we’ve been trying for nearly two years,both 35 began the process of seeing a specialist in Feb this year and did all the tests and blood tests and all came back ok. Internal scan just showed my lining to be a bit thin. So I was put on femara (2.5) day 3-7 with a trigger shot. Went in for my follicle tracking scan and my lining was still thin, got my E2 bloods taken and had only half dosage of trigger. That cycle didn’t work so went again this cycle with increased to 5mg, just had my follicle tracking scan on Friday 10th July, too many little follicles for trigger shot and lining only 4.5mm. Went back in today, Sunday 12th, for another scan and no change. Doc mentioned moving on to injections for 6 months or so on Friday and today asked my would I be open to IVF, that she’s try the shots for. While but it would be better to start IVF sooner rather then later. I’m going back Tuesday (day16) in case I ovulate late and once she has the picture of the full cycle, she’ll make a decision on what will happen next cycle

    To say I’m heartbroken is an understatement, I’ve always thought and imagined (like so many others I know) I’d naturally conceive, and this unexplained fertility is so hard to deal with and comprehend. Each month so far has been so hard to go through and now to consider IVF. All the questions going around in my head, will it work?!would I be trying it too early?! The expense. And it’s alL causing so much stress. I’ve been in bed all day since my scan this morning, my husband has been so supportive, but I don’t want to lump this on anyone else.

    Has anyone else gone through anything similar and im so sorry if this is the wrong thread 😞 I just feel so so lost, alone, confused and so scared....like so many, I never imagined trying to have a child would be like this


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Hi everyone

    In a FET cycle did you all start estrogen on CD1?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Hi Sunflower10

    So sorry to see that you are struggling like this. I know exactly how you feel, I was the very same, shocked when I realised I'd need IVF but here I am 8 years later with our beautiful little baby. It's a tough one to get your head around and in the grand scheme of things conceiving seems to be so natural and easy and that is the case for so many but for many others its not. There is so so many little factors that need to be happening at the same time to conceive and it is CRAZY how many of those little things there are. Unfortunately with the clinics alot of it is trial and error... I was on chlomid, I done the 6 months of injections but in the end of it all IVF is what worked for me. But the injections may work for you. Your doc is a professional dealing with this all the time so I would put your trust in her, wait until she has the full picture and talk to her, take your time, write down all the questions you have for her and take the time when you meet with her to ask them all.

    Do take the time to deal with how you feel, it is hard to process all of this. For me, I'm so so grateful for IVF and i forever will be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    Hi everyone, we’ve been trying for nearly two years,both 35 began the process of seeing a specialist in Feb this year and did all the tests and blood tests and all came back ok. Internal scan just showed my lining to be a bit thin. So I was put on femara (2.5) day 3-7 with a trigger shot. Went in for my follicle tracking scan and my lining was still thin, got my E2 bloods taken and had only half dosage of trigger. That cycle didn’t work so went again this cycle with increased to 5mg, just had my follicle tracking scan on Friday 10th July, too many little follicles for trigger shot and lining only 4.5mm. Went back in today, Sunday 12th, for another scan and no change. Doc mentioned moving on to injections for 6 months or so on Friday and today asked my would I be open to IVF, that she’s try the shots for. While but it would be better to start IVF sooner rather then later. I’m going back Tuesday (day16) in case I ovulate late and once she has the picture of the full cycle, she’ll make a decision on what will happen next cycle

    To say I’m heartbroken is an understatement, I’ve always thought and imagined (like so many others I know) I’d naturally conceive, and this unexplained fertility is so hard to deal with and comprehend. Each month so far has been so hard to go through and now to consider IVF. All the questions going around in my head, will it work?!would I be trying it too early?! The expense. And it’s alL causing so much stress. I’ve been in bed all day since my scan this morning, my husband has been so supportive, but I don’t want to lump this on anyone else.

    Has anyone else gone through anything similar and im so sorry if this is the wrong thread �� I just feel so so lost, alone, confused and so scared....like so many, I never imagined trying to have a child would be like this

    Sorry to hear of your struggles Sunflower. I hope you got some positive news yesterday.

    I have PCOS and last year did similar to what you are doing now with the injections and follicle tracking and we've been blessed with a little girl. The only advice I would give you is to talk to people - I share an office with two other girls (we're between 34 & 37) and the three of us were/are attending the same consultant at the same fertility clinic. Two of us have little girls and the other is pregnant.

    You may think you're alone in this but the one thing that has surprised me is how common it is for girls our age to be getting assistance. I'm open about it with everyone and 70% of the girls I've mentioned it to have also been getting help too but most people just don't talk about it which I think is a shame as we all feel like we're going it alone.

    This forum is very quiet so it might be worth going over to Rollercoaster.ie - there is a very busy forum there with loads of girls going through the same thing that you are right now. You may pick up some advice or tips on what may help to thicken your lining.

    I wish you the very best of luck on this journey and stay positive, you may not think it but you're actually quite young so you have time on your side xxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Hi Folks. We did PGS screening of 5 frozen blastocysts. 1 euploid and 2 aneuploid while 2 didn't 'expand' enough to be biopsied. Do you know if that means the last two are gone i.e. didn't survive the thaw? Is that the same thing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Hollywood130


    Hi bilbot, sorry I have no answer to your question but what I would do is pick up the phone straight away and ring your clinic, ask them what it means... they are best to answer your question and stay on the phone asking as many questions as you need, you deserve that


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Denise2007


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    Hi Folks. We did PGS screening of 5 frozen blastocysts. 1 euploid and 2 aneuploid while 2 didn't 'expand' enough to be biopsied. Do you know if that means the last two are gone i.e. didn't survive the thaw? Is that the same thing?

    Hi, we had something similar with 1. It didn't mean they didn't survive the thaw. Just they couldn't be biopsied. Our doctor told us that it could be fine. We were going to use but when thawed to use it didn't survive the thaw. Good luck !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭tonsiltickler


    15 months in and I’m just so fed up, my wife is a number of years older than me, I’ve had SA done and my numbers are all good, I really can’t see us going the ivf route, I’m worried for what the future holds. I’ve always wanted to be a dad and it’s looking like it’ll never happen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Tonsiltickler. Do you have any more info about the issues you are facing as a couple?

    An update from me. I was worried about the impact of lasering thawed embryos for pgs and in the end all but one was discarded.

    I'm in 2 minds about pgs as clinics will not want to even attempt a transfer of aneuploid even though it can work in some cases. I think they know it will reduce their stats.

    However we are now 6 months pregnant with the last one and it looks increasingly likely that we will finally move on with life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭catrionanic


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    Tonsiltickler. Do you have any more info about the issues you are facing as a couple?

    An update from me. I was worried about the impact of lasering thawed embryos for pgs and in the end all but one was discarded.

    I'm in 2 minds about pgs as clinics will not want to even attempt a transfer of aneuploid even though it can work in some cases. I think they know it will reduce their stats.

    However we are now 6 months pregnant with the last one and it looks increasingly likely that we will finally move on with life

    Wonderful news, bilbot. I've followed your posts here over many years so am just delighted that you are finally there. Wishing you many happy years together in your little family.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Fingersandtoes


    Bilbot. I'm. Over the moon to read this and wish you the very best of luck to both of you for the last few weeks. I hope the pregnancy is going well. Please will you let us know when the baby is born. It's always wonderful to read great positive news especially as it's been a long difficult road for you.
    Massive congratulations to you both


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    Tonsiltickler. Do you have any more info about the issues you are facing as a couple?

    An update from me. I was worried about the impact of lasering thawed embryos for pgs and in the end all but one was discarded.

    I'm in 2 minds about pgs as clinics will not want to even attempt a transfer of aneuploid even though it can work in some cases. I think they know it will reduce their stats.

    However we are now 6 months pregnant with the last one and it looks increasingly likely that we will finally move on with life

    Ah bilbot, I am so so delighted to hear this!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Thanks everyone. It's not been straightforward in the slightest and Mrs Bilbot is having some issues along the way but baby seems to be doing great.

    I was talking to him last night before we went to sleep and he/she decided to have a party in mummy's tummy and keep her up ☺️.

    10 weeks to go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    It's a long tíme since I was in here but am so delighted to hear your news bilbot. Hope things are still on track


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Thanks Lashes. Baba is 38 weeks today, nearly there :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    Thanks Lashes. Baba is 38 weeks today, nearly there :)

    I'm so happy for ye. Fingers crossed the last few weeks go well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    We're back trying for number 2, our first is 3 now. Cycle 1 was unsuccessful so onto cycle 2. I forgot how draining all this is. Anyone else in the middle of a cycle at the min?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Good luck Lashes. Like Covid, this process is unforgiving and indiscriminate. For all you do you still rely on luck to get you over the line.

    Best of luck in this cycle

    Mr and Mrs Bilbot brought a beautiful little daughter into the world yesterday and as I cried like no man should I remembered all the horrific experiences we went through and how I was always coming back to this thread looking for support.

    Wishing the best for all of you on this tough, tough road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,676 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Aww there’s a tear in the eye as I’ve followed your struggles from afar. Congratulations and welcome to the world little one.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Ah that is wonderful bilbot, many congratulations to you and Mrs Bilbot. That is genuinely lovely news. I'm not sure if I have ever posted in this thread/forum but I have read it a lot and have seen your previous struggles when you postedf so I couldn't pass it by without saying congrats :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,513 ✭✭✭✭Lucyfur


    So pleased for you Bilbot. Enjoy the 4th trimester together x


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    bilbot79 wrote: »

    Mr and Mrs Bilbot brought a beautiful little daughter into the world yesterday and as I cried like no man should I remembered all the horrific experiences we went through and how I was always coming back to this thread looking for support.

    Wishing the best for all of you on this tough, tough road.


    So delighted for you both. :) The early days are so wonderful, enjoy cocooning with your new bundle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    Bilbot I'm so delighted for you both, enjoy the teeny baby cuddles. Ah that's the best news


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Congratulations Bilbot.Lovely news!


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,929 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Congratulations bilbot, enjoy every minute with your wonderful daughter :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭catrionanic


    Oh that is just magical news to read. Congratulations to you both on your little miracle. At last you can breathe that big sigh of relief.


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    Good luck Lashes. Like Covid, this process is unforgiving and indiscriminate. For all you do you still rely on luck to get you over the line.

    Best of luck in this cycle

    Mr and Mrs Bilbot brought a beautiful little daughter into the world yesterday and as I cried like no man should I remembered all the horrific experiences we went through and how I was always coming back to this thread looking for support.

    Wishing the best for all of you on this tough, tough road.

    That's just brilliant - I am thrilled to hear it. I wish ye all the happiness in the world.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Tinkerbell 03


    Hi Gals, hope ye are all well xxx

    I am back! Happier and stronger after years of trying to concieve...with ex husband who couldn't have children, blamed me and left!

    I have finally decided Anyways to try donor sperm IUI. I went to a clinic, really nice consultant, went away and picked donor, just got message backing saying donor is available with MOT17 or MOT18 not the standard rate of MOT20 of the sperm bank but it meets the standard of their clinic, what did ye reckon? Any help much appreciated...

    Tinker bell xxx


    Me again! 19 months later! Did 2nd IUI with donor sperm it failed Feb 2020. COVID hit world turned upside down for us all...what a year eh! Bonus for me I met a guy who I love, never thought that would happen again after ex husbands behaviour, painful experience to get over...And now myself and my boyfriend are thinking of IVF. Its been such a roller coaster journey you wouldn't read it in a novel, you couldnt write this stuff eh! Am turning 44, doc says slim chance. Reckon it will be last time I try!

    I hope you're all well girls xxx


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    Best of luck tinkberbell, you never know, you can only try.

    We have 3 rounds done this time of OI and no go. Have to wait a few weeks after my second vaccine before we can do IUI so that will be mid to late August. Feel like I'm flogging a dead horse but sure we'll give it another go and see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Tinkerbell 03


    lashes34 wrote: »
    Best of luck tinkberbell, you never know, you can only try.

    We have 3 rounds done this time of OI and no go. Have to wait a few weeks after my second vaccine before we can do IUI so that will be mid to late August. Feel like I'm flogging a dead horse but sure we'll give it another go and see.



    Thanks so much for the reply Lashes. I hear you, I feel the exact same, I just retraced my journey lately and its being 15 years between boyfriends/ex husbands and break ups etc I am chasing this dream now...if we do go this will definitely be the last time, its too exhausting.

    Sorry to hear of your 3 no go, I really am. Sending you good vibes for August.

    xxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    Sorry to hear of your 3 no go, I really am. Sending you good vibes for August.

    xxx

    Thanks and best of luck to you. Delighted you met a good one after your last relationship


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    Me again! 19 months later! Did 2nd IUI with donor sperm it failed Feb 2020. COVID hit world turned upside down for us all...what a year eh! Bonus for me I met a guy who I love, never thought that would happen again after ex husbands behaviour, painful experience to get over...And now myself and my boyfriend are thinking of IVF. Its been such a roller coaster journey you wouldn't read it in a novel, you couldnt write this stuff eh! Am turning 44, doc says slim chance. Reckon it will be last time I try!

    I hope you're all well girls xxx

    The very best of luck. I really hope it works for you this time round. I am also 44 and after a successful IUI in 2015, and a baby boy in 2016 (who turns 5 in 2 days! :eek:) I am desperate to have another one. We have been TTC but its not happening again, so may have go to back to clinic, which I was really hoping wouldn't happen, but may not have a choice. I don't have the time to keep TTC the old fashioned way if its not happening! I remember thinking I was getting too old at 39 when we were trying for our first, and now I'm in panic mode!
    I have been doing fertility reflexology and fertility massage in the last few weeks, so fingers crossed that might help!

    Keep us updated!


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Tinkerbell 03


    Ciarrai76 wrote: »
    The very best of luck. I really hope it works for you this time round. I am also 44 and after a successful IUI in 2015, and a baby boy in 2016 (who turns 5 in 2 days! :eek:) I am desperate to have another one. We have been TTC but its not happening again, so may have go to back to clinic, which I was really hoping wouldn't happen, but may not have a choice. I don't have the time to keep TTC the old fashioned way if its not happening! I remember thinking I was getting too old at 39 when we were trying for our first, and now I'm in panic mode!
    I have been doing fertility reflexology and fertility massage in the last few weeks, so fingers crossed that might help!

    Keep us updated!


    Thanks for your kind message of support. Wow 5 bless, fingers crossed for a 2nd wee bundle. I felt old too in my late 30's! Hopefully with the reflexology and massages it may help. It's tough going to meet doctors to discuss treatment plan etc I keep thinking if only I could be content with my childless life then maybe I could finally rest but as I have said this is defo the last hurdle and what will be will be eh...

    Will of course keep ye updated...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    I finally got a consultation with the fertility clinic that we went with for our first baby. I had my bloods done and spoke with the doctor today. Not great news as my AMH is quite low, but as I have been told this before (more than 7 years ago), I'm not overly worried about it. I was told its 1.86, which is not great, but I am nearly 45 so its to be expected too. She has said she just wants to get back my husbands semen analysis next week and she needs me to do a day 21 blood test to check my progesterone levels. They were also low before I was pregnant 6 years ago, so again I'm not overly concerned about it. She will get us both back in again in a few weeks to discuss further. She mentioned egg donation, and to think about it, but I honestly don't think its something I want to do. its not really a road I want to go down. I asked her if it would be possible to try IUI again, and she said its up to us, and that it would only be about a 10/11% chance.....she told me 12% 6 years ago and it worked first time! So I'm not too disheartened and I am thinking about trying it again anyway.

    She did say the one concern she would have is the high chance of having a baby with downs or any other sort of issues. But there's always going to be that risk, no matter the age of a woman. I can't let it put me off trying again. I have been doing reflexology and fertility massage for a few months now, and it seems to be going well. Any issues that the therapist brought up appear to be gone. It can only help so I will keep doing it. I'm praying for a miracle and it happens naturally in the meantime!



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Denise2007


    Hi,

    How are you getting on ? Am going for another transfer in a couple of months and going to start reflexology again. I did acupuncture for earlier transfers but hated it. My only successful transfer was when doing reflexology.

    X



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    Following our consultation at the end of last year and being advised to do egg donation, I pretty much decided I can't go down that road. Apart from the financial aspect of it all, which we can't afford, I am I have to start to come to terms with the fact it may not happen again and that at 45 I may just have to leave it be. We have a beautiful almost 6 year old and I am so grateful for him. I am very sad about it all and eventhough we have tried naturally since, its not happening. I have been doing fertility reflexology for a year and half, but taking a break from it now as I just feel I'm throwing money away. I started counselling too as I am finding hard to accept things are the way they are. It is helping, but I'm still really sad about it all.

    I hope things go really well for you!



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Denise2007


    Hi Ciarrai76,

    I am so sorry you are feeling this way and think counselling is definitely the best thing you could do.

    Will send you a PM.

    X



  • Registered Users Posts: 19 xeniane


    Hi Ciarrai76,

    I am so sorry you are going through this. IVF DE is not so easy to accept, and not all women decide to undergo the treatment, that also is fine. One of the most important things is to feel okay with ANY decision of yours. However, if you decide to go IVF DE route you might want to have a look as clinics abroad, particulary Spain, Czech Rep, Cyprus, or Poland. Their prices are much affordable while clinics get great success rates. Good luck on your journey.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19 xeniane


    I came across the guide with costs as I couldn't edit my post, decided to share here: https://www.fertilityclinicsabroad.com/ivf-costs/ivf-costs-complete-guide/ Hope this helps.



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