Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

We're over 2 years into this with each variant becoming more transmissible but less severe, we haven't had one child death in the country as a direct result of Covid. if you needled every kid from 6mts up you still wouln't save 1 child, most have the antibodies, what is the point of injecting them? It's a 3 shot regieme, presumably they'll need boosters every 6mts or more, for how long, when are we going stop, this is madness.

You aked which is more likely to happen, that's been answered already, more kids who took the vaccine ended up in hospital by a large percentage, the data is crap though you couldn't draw any meaningful conculsions from it.

I didn't say each variant must become less severe that's a blatent lie from you again.

I used the word because I find the whole things sick at this stage, it's perverse, there's no emeregency need for a trail vaccine to be rolled out to kids, there are other factors at play here.

Parents have always let their kids partake in vaccine tirals, some for very good reason, I'm not going to call that abuse in an overall sense of the word, I would question some parents motivation though based on what i've seen from some parents with kids here who have been vaccinated.

I've protected my kids, they won't be part of these trials, that's my job. This is a waiting game, we learn more about the adult trials every day. I think most people have woken up to the pharma shills, Donnely today has 4.5 million doses he can't even give away, the gigs up.

That's what the data says, 1 unvaccinated child in hospital, 6 vaccinated in hospital. Do we know it was a result of the vaccine, no we don't, what we do know is a the vaccinated kids under 5 had a higher chance of ending up in hospital.

You still didn't answer the question and have tried to weasel out since I asked, why the neccessiity to jab the kids when they have such high levels of antobodies as a group? It's not necessary, please justify your rational.

Again you won't answer this question.

Little chicken man lol, that's a new one.

Show me in the trial data for under 5's where there were 0 hospitalisations in children given any of this concoction?

Why didn't they all get the second and third shot, some tapped out after the 1st why? Bad reaction to the placebo no doubt.

I don't know how you can stand behind that data/authorization and expect to be taken anyway seriously.

Well I didn't say any of those things you assumed I did, the data showed you were statically more likely to end up in hospital after the injection. I've repeatedly said we don't know why and that the data was rubbish.

By your own admissions you agree that the data isn't robust enough to draw any conclusions or assumptions.

I'll ask again, why if the antibodies are so high in that cohort is there a need to inject them with an unknown with no medium or long term safety data?

I'd have to look again but from memory none of the kids actually had visible signs of Covid they needed to be tested.

You don't answer any questions, heaven forbid you might have to agree with one of us that data can be misrepresented or outright rubbish.

Based on the trial data the latter, again we don't know why that is.

Yet you still won't answer my question, why vaccinate kids with antibodies which are shown to be long lasting and protective, why inject an unknown into the mix when the known is good enough to protect them?

Lol. No. That's not something you can say based on 6 cases from a trial. And as you've admitted, we can exclude the notion those were due to vaccine side effects.

Try again.

And No, I won't answer your question because we're still trying to get you to answer my first one.

Or if you prefer you can go way back to one of the previous questions you've dodged, like finding the quote from the Israeli study you lied about.

Nope. I told you that I won't answer your question because you've still to answer mine.

You agree that the study doesn't have anything to do with vaccine side effects. Great.

That means you've not actually answered my question again.

And again man, this silly childish accusation that people are being paid not to believe you, it's not helping you.

first off i got two doses of a vaccine. But will not be getting any booster if i can help it . i have small enough group of friends and i know two have got blood clots shortly after getting the vaccine

it is true one blood clots cases is very close friend it bit like roy Butler in Waterford keep quiet the the side effects

plus around 3 month ago i got very minor itching the back of my throat and for some reason pain in my leg had it for few days next things a family member in the house had same thing and got tested it was covid

personally for time being i won't be getting a bolster anytime soon

ok i put it this way at my age covid is non issue . plus as i said i have very small group of friends with two cases of blood clots

But you're still not making sense, nor are you addressing my questions.

At any age, the chances of blood clots from covid are far higher than blood clots from vaccines, so it's completely contradictory to avoid vaccines because you're afraid of blood clots.

You don't know that the vaccine caused the blood clots in your friends. But frankly, I don't believe for a second that's a true story.

Nope. That's not what I'm saying. That's a dishonest and pretty pathetic and hypocritical strawman you're trying to use.

Poor show.

You're leaving your question hanging BTW. No need to butt into another string of posts without answering it.

If you ignore it one more time, you are admitting that the side effects from covid are more likely.

I don't believe blood clots are a side effect of the mRNA vaccine like they were the adeno-vector vaccines, certainly not in any level above background levels, and as there is risk of blood clots from SARS-COV2 infection, avoiding a booster for that reason is pretty silly.

Similarly, the risk of myocarditis from the vaccine is over 1000 times less for all categories bar young males, i.e. for every 1000+ people in that group that have sars-cov2 induced myocarditis, less than 1 will have myocarditis from the vaccine, in addition, the vaccine caused myocarditis is milder and more easily treated (+ those who have vaccine induced myocarditis will likely have more severe virus caused myocarditis as it's due to the immune system causing inflammation and the virus inflames it much more, so even at risk, the vaccine is much much more preferable).

Only if you think the data is junk and there is a scientific conspiracy at play would there be an excuse not to get a vaccine (in which case, explain the conspiracy apply some critical thought rather than running away like drunkmonkey has for over 2 years).

It's been posted on the thread multiple times, I hesitate to post it again as you ran away each time previously only to reappear sheepishly later 🤣

So, do placebos cause hospitalisation? Or are you an "I don't know" person like hometruths?

Are you an ostrich as well as a chicken? Any quick search throws up lots of studies about Omicron causing blood clots.

Do conspiracy theorists lose their ability to use the internet along with their ability to answer any questions and read graphs?

Did the placebo cause the hospitalisation?

Do you want a let me google that for you link?

IQ is already on the floor in here, try not dragging it lower drunkmonkey, do your own research so you don't have to answer with "I don't know" to all the hard questions or become pedantic man like hometruths does with everything.

Talking about dragging the IQ lower, that's not the case, post vaccine, those infected have a much less chance of any issues when they catch the virus and any issues are milder than it would have been without the vaccine, so it's swapping out a higher chance of a severe issue with a very very low chance of a mild issue, including any risk from taking the vaccine (and again, the mRNA vaccines haven't been known to cause blood clots, Omicron has, this is a very weird tangent from the loony bunch).

But I guess in conspiracy loons mind chance of everything = 1 and 1+1=3 as we all know.

Muddying the waters? By showing how you are trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes.

You talk of 'chance' but they are not the same chance.

What are the chances?

Not all chances are equal.

You dont seem to understand probability so no wonder it is simple for you because that is the level you comprehend it at.

OK, so are you guys now claiming that covid doesn't cause blood clots?

I thought you were still trying to pretend to be rational and reasonable hometruths?

Well for one you're now claiming that covid doesn't cause blood clots.

That's pretty unreasonable.

Intresting divergence between East and West Germany,

Robert Koch-Institut: COVID-19-Dashboard

and before you say it King Mob the answers yes, I didn't just find the lead to that all by myself any observations on what's going on in the map?

That's official government data released the other day, you misunderstood me, I meant yes it came from who you'd call a grifter, so I went and checked the official data myself and that's the link I posted to, it matches what you call a grifter said.

I'm not surprised again you can't explain what's happening right now.

Go on have a crack at explaining it I could do with a giggle to start the day..

Without even knowing what that map is about, I would guess it pretty much aligns with this, which came about due to an oppressive Soviet regime in the east of the country prior to reunification (you did check this first? I mean it's by far the most obvious thing to do for a map):

Must be killing you that everyone else has seen the data and understands it and even though you've seen it, you're still clueless, if you ask nicely and promise not to become pedantic man, I might give you some clues to piece it together, till then, everyone else knows or can ask me about it :)